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Actual Electric Savings...
« on: January 14, 2013, 10:22:53 AM »

Hello All!  New to the forum and new to the Outdoor boiler world.  Just installed my new boiler back in November and have been burning it 24/7 since.  Got my first "real" electric bill since getting everything installed and all sorted out.  Less than impressed with the actual savings compared to what others have "told" me their savings was. 

I am heating both the hot water and heat exchanger with the stove.  Newly constructed, well insulated home approximately 2600 sq. ft.  Neighbors house is pretty well the exact same style and size and is about 12 years old heating purely with heat pump.  His bill... $311, my bill $221.

What are your all's estimated actual savings that you are seeing? 
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 10:51:18 AM »

Something is wrong buddy..  I can confidently tell my customers I can reduce there electric bills by at least 70%, often times much more.

I have really high utility rates, 13.2cents/kWh ...  The last time I ran n electric was over 4 years ago, that winter I had 3 bills over $550.  Since installing my owb,my highest electric bill was 123, and that was last December with enough Christmas lights to light up the whole holler!  Most of my electric bills from October - April run in the range of 80 -85 dollars
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 11:01:39 AM »

I had a guy last year who had been contacting me about a heatmaster 10,000.  He was having electric bills near 1000/mo.  His name is kybaseball on here, I'll see if I can find his posts about what he saves.

With your bill, I'm led to beleive something is kicking on with the furnace
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 11:03:13 AM »

Well... that's what I was thinking as well.  A friend down the rode has one installed heating his house, water heater and an outdoor building and he said his highest electric bill last year was $61. 

What could be wrong?  Pretty simple setup really.  I was expecting huge savings and I'd say my bill wouldn't have been much different had I just ran the heat pump.
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 11:04:49 AM »

Wo installed it?  What is it?  Give us some info
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 11:05:32 AM »

Quotes from kybaseball...

Ok I we had a Heatmaster 10000e on Jan.5 2012. I had been looking at OWB's for while but couldn't make my mind up if it would save enough to make a difference. Well I got my 1st true electric bill being on the OWB. Can you say OMG. Looking at the bill last year at the same time frame I used 6827 kilowatts in 27 days for 689.30---The same time frame this year we used 1703 kilowatts in 30 days for 161.43---That is $527.87 difference. That is unbeiveable. So for all the people that are on the fence about what to do. Jump off and put that money back in your pocket. I want to thank Dave Youdler and Scott7M for answering all the questions that I have had. Dave isn't on this site but Scott7M is and he will take the time to answer any question you have. It is great to have people like this.
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 11:08:23 AM »

I installed it myself.  It is a 5000  sq foot stove that someone here locally builds with much success.  Stove seems to function fine, heats the house to 72 with ease.  I wired in a second thermostat myself that kicks on the fan only as needed.  I used the instructions provided on the Central Boiler site to do this. 
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 11:11:43 AM »

Does your outside unit kick on when the fan comes on?
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 11:12:41 AM »

Too be honest, I am not sure.  I assume it should, correct?
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 11:17:23 AM »

No it shouldnt, that would mean your heat pump is still on and ur furnace is only assisting it.
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 11:33:18 AM »

Okay, I see what you are saying... makes perfect sense now.  I will check it tonight first thing.  I suspect you hit the nail on the head!

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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 11:51:01 AM »

Do folks typically just leave the heat pump set to "Off" during operation of the owb?
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 12:11:32 PM »

Yes sometimes, but there is not set answer.

I install 2 thermostats, but even if the customers old thermostat is switched to off, my new thermostat, even though it's only controlling the fan can back feed and turn the heat pump on.  In cases where this happens, I either turn the breaker off to the outdoor unit, or install a relay to keep that from happening

I'll post a picture of my relay diagram
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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 12:15:35 PM »

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Re: Actual Electric Savings...
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 12:58:45 PM »

Another possibility is that the power company doesn't read the meter every month. Some only do 3 or 4 times a year and bill by estimated usage between and adjust the bill when the meter is actually read.
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