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I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« on: December 01, 2013, 08:33:01 PM »

Hi, new member here with rust- problems.
 I bought a shaver 165 owb in late 2008 and was delivered in feb 09.
I let it sit for the rest of the winter and installed it in the later months of the year around aug (with no water in it yet). Never had a problem and seemed to keep my poorly insulated house around 72°. This past winter (2012)going into (2013)
I was topping off and all of a sudden I seen a lot of steam coming out the bottom of stove. I quickly ran over and saw the water was pouring out the bottom of the stove. So now im trying to fix and just was curious what others are doing to fix the problem with the bottom of the stove rusting through. I have a sheet of 3\16 steel I can weld on bottom and have a plasma cutter for cutting. I got a very good deal on the steel otherwise I would have gotten 1\4 inch plate
ok so now im asking for you to look at the pictures and help me plan the best way of going about fixing this thank you all and look forward to your suggestions.

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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 08:49:36 PM »

Have you tried contacting Shaver?  The stove should still be under warranty.

If I fixed it, I would cut the bottom off and replace the whole thing.  I don't like the idea of just covering the existing bottom and water setting between the old bottom and new bottom.  be sure to look at the sides if you have the bottom cut off.  Good luck.
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 09:13:51 PM »

Do a search on this blog with the following "How I improved my shaver boiler model 290".  if you tear into yours, this is a good post on some things you can consider doing.

My shaver is starting its 2nd year.  hope I am not looking at the same thing in a few years!
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 08:39:18 AM »

That sucks,thats a lot of holes what did you find in the bottom of the tank?was there a bunch of  slag? someone on here will give you good advise on how to repair it.Good luck
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 09:22:58 AM »

Your best bet is to cut the bottom off and get all of the weld slag out, I would bet that is what caused the swiss cheese effect on the bottom. Can't remember if Shaver welds their firebox supports to the bottom or not. Someone will chime in and let you know if they do and how they resupported it. Should be straight forward other than that. Cut it off with the cutter and cut the old legs off then weld it back up.
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 09:25:05 AM »

Did it rust from the inside out?
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2013, 07:13:07 PM »

I did contact shaver, they wont cover it. I should have known because the year before I called about a new shaker grate that disingrated , of course  they didnt want to cover that either but would sell me one for 250 or some high price,I forget now. So screw them ill fix and modify it myself.

I plan on cutting bottom off as suggested  and finding whatever slag crap and stuff is in there and clean it out. I'll also look at side towards the bottom  as suggested and fix accordingly (may be asking more questions on this).

pretty sure it did rust from inside but the outside also looks horrible. It has some pitting and looks like if it didn't fail from inside it would have from the outside. They should have them blasted and painted, after all they are supposed to last 20+ years outside in the elements, with no paint it has no chance.
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 06:30:52 AM »

did they give you a reason why it was not a warranty repair? >:(
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2013, 08:56:38 AM »

I am going to throw a wild guess out there and say that he didn't have his water chemistry tested every other day.
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Re: I love my shaver 165 and all the holes
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2013, 08:57:58 AM »

What rust blocker were you using?
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2013, 09:01:37 AM »

I am going to throw a wild guess out there and say that he didn't have his water chemistry tested every other day.
Shaver doesn't require any test if you use there product
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2013, 09:09:38 AM »

My Shaver manual says that their corrosion protection product is Treatment Solution 101 from Wood Boiler Solutions LLC.  You would have needed to keep all of your initial tests and order information from Wood Boiler Solutions as they don't keep record of it, that is the stove owner's responsibiliy from what I was told when I put my Shaver into service.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 04:39:19 AM »

When I purchased my unit 3-30-10, I had to buy the rust blocker from Shaver. The cost was $250 and was told it was good for 5 years and no test were needed . By the way it was in a 5gal jug.
Wood Nutt, i did read that in the manual..Ben Shaver told my neighbor and me for the warranty we had to use there rust blocker.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 11:16:46 AM »

I was using the wood solution 101 for rust treatment,but I lost my first water test results and without that the warranty is void. It is what it is now, so ill deal with it.I do like the design over all the other ones.just needs more water circulation in tank .
heres a pic of the crap I pulled out if it!
Thought you would like to see what was in it when bottom was cut off

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 12:06:53 PM »

Yuk, and I know that part of the boiler is about impossible to get to easily to try and clean.  if you put in a new bottom, maybe slope it to a drain where it could be flushed periodically, like you would do with a hot water heater???  Just a thought.
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