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Global warming, climate change? Article
« on: March 19, 2014, 10:50:59 AM »

I find this article directly related to the crap we are dealing with now from the epa and ultimately it's directly related to our outdoor wood furnaces.

The end of the article sums it up nicely

http://www.cfact.org/2014/03/18/top-scientists-debunk-climate-change-myths/
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 11:42:50 AM »

  When previously asked on Fox Business News who is responsible for promoting unwarranted fear and what their motives are, Moore said: “A powerful convergence of interests. Scientists seeking grant money, media seeking headlines, universities seeking huge grants from major institutions, foundations, environmental groups, politicians wanting to make it look like they are saving future generations. And all of these people have converged on this issue.” - See more at: http://www.cfact.org/2014/03/18/top-scientists-debunk-climate-change-myths/#sthash.hfYU9bSN.dpuf


  Great post Scott. I am not a believer in "Climate Change" or "Global Warming" and as this article reads it has happened before and it will again. It is a normal cycle.
  I am sure many got very wealthy of the idea of it though. Sad.
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 11:50:53 AM »

Scott - Thanks for the article.   :post: :thumbup:

I work at an Ivy League institution where the prevailing thought among some (not all) of the faculty is we're going to burn to death in the not too distant future if we don't do something about global warming.  Now, try having an opposing point of view with facts and they shout you down.  I see first hand how our tax dollars are being wastefully spent by people whose sole purpose is to get rich by scaring people into thinking we are all doomed.  Roger
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 11:52:20 AM »

....like all of these initiatives and concerns, they are "invented" in order to interest in a created topic and "investigate"  root cause.... but with someone else's money (a lot of wasted U.S. taxpayer dollars).  :-\

How do I know?  I wrote three National Institutes of Health grant (NIH) applications for obtaining >3 million grant dollars for graduate chemistry research!  :o  Don't thow rotten produce at me please.  :P
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 12:21:51 PM »

Scott - Thanks for the article.   :post: :thumbup:

I work at an Ivy League institution where the prevailing thought among some (not all) of the faculty is we're going to burn to death in the not too distant future if we don't do something about global warming.  Now, try having an opposing point of view with facts and they shout you down.  I see first hand how our tax dollars are being wastefully spent by people whose sole purpose is to get rich by scaring people into thinking we are all doomed.  Roger

My blacksheep liberal engineer uncle is a firm believer in global warming. Especially when it causes his stock portfolio to increase.  He cried like a baby when when the poop hit the fan over Solyndra. Hypocrite.

If the global warming folks were right, Florida would already be under water, the polar ice would be gone and polar bears would be extinct.

Global warming is nothing more than yet another scheme to give governments of the world even more control over their people under the guise of being in the best interest of the people. Think Obamacare on steroids.
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 02:23:24 PM »

I bet this winter set a few of those !@#$%^&* back in their claims.  Next week is supposed to be cold too.  It is funny how the "free thinking" can be lured into this closed minded cult by scare tactics.  The uber educated are the biggest extremists when it comes to warming, guns, execution, foreign policies, etc.  And I am the crazy one????
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 02:53:43 PM »

  AAAARK ME SCURRRVY MATES AS ANYONE SEEN ME MIND? seems I lost it!
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 03:22:43 PM »

I bet this winter set a few of those !@#$%^&* back in their claims.  Next week is supposed to be cold too.  It is funny how the "free thinking" can be lured into this closed minded cult by scare tactics.  The uber educated are the biggest extremists when it comes to warming, guns, execution, foreign policies, etc.  And I am the crazy one????

Most likely not. Just heard something on the news, when figuring the average temps this winter it's only the tenth coldest on record for the states.
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 08:40:46 PM »

Please give Al another Nobel.  ::)  :bash: :bash:
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 09:18:13 PM »

Did not read the article but global warming is real. We cannot continue to burn fossil fuels, driving gasoline powered vehicles and add millions of tons of carbon into the air year after year without consequences. North pole melting more every year. Permafrost thawing  rapidly. Ice cover decrease. Only portion of glaciers left. Extreme heat in most of the US.  Do not have to be smart to realize what is happening. A natural cycle? Think again.
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 11:09:45 PM »

Did not read the article but global warming is real. We cannot continue to burn fossil fuels, driving gasoline powered vehicles and add millions of tons of carbon into the air year after year without consequences. North pole melting more every year. Permafrost thawing  rapidly. Ice cover decrease. Only portion of glaciers left. Extreme heat in most of the US.  Do not have to be smart to realize what is happening. A natural cycle? Think again.
So what melted the glaciers during the "ice age", Global Warming??…How about its a cycle on how the Earth works?..Maybe you need to think again..
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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 05:12:18 AM »

There is no question that the planet has warmed over the past 200 or so years at a significant rate.  There is also no question that man influences the climate.  The only real unknowns are the degree to which the changing climate man is responsible for, and the processes that Earth may go though to correct that influence. 

Personally I am for responsible stewardship of our planet and climate.  I don't believe that doing so requires a zero carbon footprint, however neither should we be irresponsible with our activities.  We should not run around like a chicken with it's head cut off screaming about the end of days due to warming, yet neither should we have our heads buried in the sand about what is going on.

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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 05:14:15 AM »

Did not read the article but global warming is real. We cannot continue to burn fossil fuels, driving gasoline powered vehicles and add millions of tons of carbon into the air year after year without consequences. North pole melting more every year. Permafrost thawing  rapidly. Ice cover decrease. Only portion of glaciers left. Extreme heat in most of the US.  Do not have to be smart to realize what is happening. A natural cycle? Think again.
So what melted the glaciers during the "ice age", Global Warming??…How about its a cycle on how the Earth works?..Maybe you need to think again..
Previous warming and cooling periods of our planet does not mean that it is not happening now, nor that man does  not play a part in that process.  That argument is one of flawed logic.

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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 05:15:34 AM »

  When previously asked on Fox Business News who is responsible for promoting unwarranted fear and what their motives are, Moore said: “A powerful convergence of interests. Scientists seeking grant money, media seeking headlines, universities seeking huge grants from major institutions, foundations, environmental groups, politicians wanting to make it look like they are saving future generations. And all of these people have converged on this issue.” - See more at: http://www.cfact.org/2014/03/18/top-scientists-debunk-climate-change-myths/#sthash.hfYU9bSN.dpuf


  Great post Scott. I am not a believer in "Climate Change" or "Global Warming" and as this article reads it has happened before and it will again. It is a normal cycle.
  I am sure many got very wealthy of the idea of it though. Sad.
There is far more money to be made by denying warming than there is money being given to study the idea.

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Re: Global warming, climate change? Article
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 05:18:23 AM »

....like all of these initiatives and concerns, they are "invented" in order to interest in a created topic and "investigate"  root cause.... but with someone else's money (a lot of wasted U.S. taxpayer dollars).  :-\

How do I know?  I wrote three National Institutes of Health grant (NIH) applications for obtaining >3 million grant dollars for graduate chemistry research!  :o  Don't thow rotten produce at me please.  :P
Saying that "all of these initiatives" are invented in order to waste taxpayer dollars is simply idiotic and not understanding the problems. 

Educating ourselves about the world around us, and our impact on it is about the farthest thing from a waste that is possible.

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