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Moving estimate?
« on: February 09, 2018, 04:25:36 PM »

I'm thinking of moving my boiler this coming off season. It's too close to the house and the smioke has stained the corner of my roof overhang. Also staying muddy and messy where I'm moving firewood in to boiler area all the time. What is your estimation of the cost to move it around 75 feet and what kinda difficulties am I faced with in splicing? I just have the 4 pipe wrapped , 2 blu 2 red with electric power cord inside. It's 1 inch pex. One red going to heat exchanger in air handler the other going to hot water heater 2 blues as returns.  I should have thought this out more when I put it in but I was in a hurry. We bought the house at auction and wanted the heat installed asap.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 05:55:31 PM »

This is what I have  and will be installing it. I'm hoping there is a kit for splicing.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 05:58:20 PM »

I would just replace the existing line so you don't have any splices. Otherwise you are risking it all (old and new) getting ruined if it leaks.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 06:02:07 PM »

I would go all new also. Nothing worse than heating the ground for no reason. It sucks having to bury a line again.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 06:13:05 PM »

I agree, if you're as close as you sound like to the house it seems hardly worth splicing outside as was mentioned. I'd splice just inside.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 06:49:19 PM »

Only other options are

1. putting another section of pipe on the stack to get it above my roof edge.

Option#2 Is to pour a new pad and  completely turn boiler around so its facing away from house and that would get the smoke stack further away from the house.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 08:20:22 PM »

Definitely no splices underground!..
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2018, 08:00:12 AM »

Bluegrass- how many feet do you have buried right now? In other words, how much would you be obandoning?
One thought, you should be able to replace with two lines instead of 4, unless you have a copper domestic coil in the owb. One set of lines can run the occasional draw of a flat plate and your steady heat load.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 08:48:37 AM »

Haste always makes waste in hindsight. Having gone the "budget" screwup route, my fix was to use 6" PVC pipe. The bends are expensive, but if you can use a straight run you might get out for slightly over $5/foot. I was able to cram two pair of 5 wrap lines through the 6"pvc (minus the corrugated pipe), it was a SOB at 35 degrees and by myself, but it's in the ground and sealed, and if the line were warm and flexible it may be possible to pull it all out and replace if needed - without digging. If you were set on using what you have and splicing, this is would be my approach.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 01:36:21 PM »

I would also stay away from splicing. The corrugated stuff is near impossible to keep from leaking with an underground splice and once there's water in it, it's junk. I also don't much care for the idea of the domestic coil in the stove- flat plates are cheap and much easier to deal with than 2 extra lines in the ground IMO. If it were mine I'd either just abandon the existing line in place or dig it up and sell it, then install a foamed line such as Thermopex or Rehau, perhaps Logstor if it's cost effective (32mm is overkill in many short run applications like this unless the heat load is large) to the new location. Then add a 20 or 30 plate exchanger in the house for domestic water, to simplify the system
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2018, 11:03:17 PM »

That foil wrap pipe is worthless...

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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2018, 09:45:31 PM »

I have foil wrap and have done temp loss on both of my runs. My 95 ft run has less than one degree temp loss and my 150 ft run is 1-2 degree loss. It is buried 6 ft deep but it has worked very well for me.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2018, 03:31:06 AM »

  125' Foil wrap here, working good. Need to keep it dry. Neighbor has 90' laying on top of ground for 3yrs, doesn't seem to burn an excessive amount of wood.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2018, 11:58:42 AM »

For most people the foil type will fail after a while, some get lucky, if you can keep all the moisture out of it, it may work for a while but eventually, the tile will crack or condensation will fill the pipe and cause tremendous heat loss. Putting it 6 ft in the ground will get rid of all the symptoms but can be really problematic when the pipe fills with water. Do yourself a favor and get a decent product, Thermopex is now available in a 25 mm size that works well for many applications and has a lower cost.
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Re: Moving estimate?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2018, 04:20:01 PM »

Very few people are happy with the foil wrap for more than a few years.....
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