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Electronics / Re: Advice needed on thermostat selection
« on: December 10, 2014, 05:25:12 PM »
I'm currently using the LUX TX9100E for my owb, it replaced my old 13 year old LUX a couple years ago. I'm also using LUX TX9100T (touch pad) for my gas furnace. Both work great.

I use a LUX touch pad for my set up as well. gas furnace, outdoor wood furnace.
Would highly recommend the LUX thermostat!

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: Insulating door and stack!
« on: December 10, 2014, 05:14:10 PM »
I'm trying some add ons to the ACME 235 to see if it will increase my efficiency
One I added a insulated chimney pipe to the existing steel pipe cut the roof and ran it down to the top of the tank and siliconed the seams around the roof..
Second I'm insulating the door with either firebrick or batt insulation and welding a plate around the inside to seal it..
If anybody can give me there thoughts on this I would be more than honored! Or any other trick they feel will work last ur was my first season with this unit and was not to pleased so before I go spend another lump of cash on a central boiler or other ill give a try..

Thanks
Joe

Did that help your furnace out?

I put regular fiberglass insulation in the door, and it seems to help with the creasote buildup on the door gasket.

Second year with my Acme 340 and I'm very pleased with it.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Large Water Volumes
« on: December 10, 2014, 05:10:36 PM »
Who has a stove with a large water volume?

How do you burn your fires?

My furnace holds 340 gallons of water which is a large water volume.
I have mine set to about 170*
Load it about twice per day.

Hope that helps.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: New furnace.....finally fired up
« on: March 03, 2014, 08:05:10 AM »
Hello everybody. Well finally able to post that the furnace is fired up. Lit the fire yesterday and has been pretty uneventful......that's a good thing. Looking forward to free heat. Only heating the small shop for now but working to get the house hooked up soon.

Congratulations!

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: New Acme Furnace
« on: February 06, 2014, 07:09:57 AM »
I was getting ready to add a shutoff switch to blower to my acme 235.  There have been a few close calls.  But yesterday morning was the final straw for me and this acme furnace.  The chimney clogged up so bad I could hardly get the 2x4 out of it.  The sad part is I'm burning seasoned wood and a coal mix and the furnace has been running hard this winter!  They put me in this unit because the 340 was "not running enough".  It's my opinion that it is a poor design.  Im upgrading to another brand before I get hurt.
This furnace is for sale in central il if anyone is interested.  Only two years old.  I have two doors, and paint for front of unit where it is burnt from not having a shutoff switch.  There are also quite a few dings in chimney from hitting with sledge to keep it opened up, but nothing major.  Any ideas on what a two year old acme 235 is worth?  May consider letting 2x4 and ladder go with.  :)

Sorry to hear you are having trouble! Yes I added a blower shutoff switch to the front of my 340. I switch it off when reloading. I'm wondering why your chimney is clogging. I've been burning some green wood in mine along with seasoned wood. My chimney is still 100% open. I too had to replace the gasket on the door already. I used a better rope gasket with graphite and coated it with high temp RTV silicone. It is working much better than the gasket that came with the stove.

If you are going to sell it, I would knock off $1000 from your purchase price. That would be a great deal for someone.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I DON'T love my Acme furnace
« on: February 04, 2014, 01:08:52 PM »
Scott I don't see being able to att.. Firebrick to the door? I am noticing a lot of heat being lost in the top of roof with all the snow we had only the lower part of the roof still has any left

The flue pipe runs up thru the top of the water jacket, past the insulation on top, then thru the roof. The flue pipe that is exposed between the insulation and the top of the roof loses some heat which warms that air space and melts the snow on the roof.

So it may not be as bad as it seems

I was upset too the first time it snowed! I thought this thing isn't insulated very good but it is. It's the flue pipe heating the roof.

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Electronics / Re: Using 2nd thermostat to control blower only?
« on: February 04, 2014, 07:40:09 AM »
I know this has been discussed here before but my searching brought up nothing that made sense for my specific situation, so...

My system...propane upflow furnace w/AC, homemade outdoor boiler (online soon I hope!).

I am wanting to use a second thermostat to control the blower when the OWB is producing heat, and my existing thermostat to fire up the propane unit if the OWB fails to hold the heat up.   I was planning on using a cheap programmable t-stat (probably a Honeywell) for the 2nd t-stat, but would be glad to hear any recommendations.

***Here are pics of my existing wiring at the back of the t-stat and where that wiring connects to the propane furnace.  I guess the extra red and white wire at the furnace go out to the A/C compressor.***  Let me know if you need any more info, thanks.

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Can't get the 2-75K pics to post, keep getting this message:

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WoodMOJoe:

I have the same furnace/AC/Wood boiler setup as you do. Another option is to use one thermostat for everything. I bought a touchscreen LUX thermostat. It will support two stages of heat. Your green wire for the fan only goes to the first stage of heat (wood boiler) the propane burner wire goes to the second stage of heat. You can then set the differencial on the thermostat. So when the wood furnace isn't heating enough, it will kick on the propane burner to bring the heat to where you have it set. Was real easy to do.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I DON'T love my Acme furnace
« on: February 04, 2014, 07:29:20 AM »
Scott I don't see being able to att.. Firebrick to the door? I am noticing a lot of heat being lost in the top of roof with all the snow we had only the lower part of the roof still has any left

The flue pipe runs up thru the top of the water jacket, past the insulation on top, then thru the roof. The flue pipe that is exposed between the insulation and the top of the roof loses some heat which warms that air space and melts the snow on the roof.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I DON'T love my Acme furnace
« on: February 03, 2014, 08:37:03 PM »
No I haven't up graded to the aquastat. Still the cheapo snap switch that come with the unit.
The  Solenoid with flapper door sounds like a good upgrade . I once had a Harman duel fuel furnace that had the solenoid/door so I'm familiar how it works. When I make some changes to this unit later I plan on both aqua stat and a much better force draft system.   One thing I have added that seems to help on heat loss is I made an insulated cover that fits snug into door cavity.  Before I added this I could easily have temp reading ( with a infrared temp gauge ) of 300+ deg on outside of door.  Another down fall on these are stack temperatures. I don't check it all the time but I have seen 3-400 deg - a lot of wasted heat.

What did you make your insulation cover for the door out of.

How would you mount the probe for an aquastat? I would like to upgrade mine to that too.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I DON'T love my Acme furnace
« on: February 03, 2014, 08:02:18 AM »
svtnut:

I just looked at the Acme Furnace website and they now sell a new flapper kit with the solenoid. Only $65 which I think is a fair price. Looks like you would just bolt the new flapper on to your existing blower. This is the ticket for you!

I would make sure it comes with the angle iron bracket that the solenoid screws into.  :thumbup:

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I DON'T love my Acme furnace
« on: February 03, 2014, 07:12:13 AM »
I have owned a acme 340 for my forth heating season and I am very dissapointed in my dissuasion and the workmenship of this unit.  I was looking into the Sequoia among other brands sold here locally and let the price influence me. Hind site being 20/20, I think most any other major brand would have a better choice.
Member : precision, stated  in previous post most all of the piss pour designs of this stove and I can't agree more. My unit did not come with a solenoid to open/close blower opening, but the fan very seldom shuts off being the recovery time takes so long. The door is the weakest link (in my opinion) Not only is it to small but just cheap. NO WAY should a person have to buy a second door (as another member stated) just to keep a new gasket to seal every few weeks. And yes I keep a ladder there cause your going to have to keep the chimney cleaned out every week or so if you burn coal or wood that is not prime seasoned for three years.
I work with some guys that bought woodmasters and they seem to like them real well. In fact I know of owners of the sequoia, hardy and mahoning and they all seem to be satisfied with there stoves. I'm sure there are pros and cons to most all of them but this acme needs quite a few of design changes. Not that I have time nor need the expense, but my plans are to make some major changes to this unit before next heating season.
With all the down side of these stoves, they are insulated well and I do like the domestic hot water coil inside the water chamber. But the bad outways the good on this brand and as a owner I would not recconmend .

svtnut:

Sorry you aren't happy with your 340. Maybe you should upgrade the blower in the back with a larger unit that flows more air? Is yours the teardrop design that you slide over the the input of the blower to allow more or less air in? If so, you can get a solenoid and flapper from Hardy. You could run your "input" wide open when the fan is on and the flapper would shut the air off when the fan is off. I would not like mine if it didn't have the solenoid/flapper to open and close the airflow to the fire.

I burn some real green wood in mine, but I do mix it will some seasoned wood too. I haven't had to clean my flue pipe, it is still clear. I coated my new rope gaskets for the door (already had to replace mine  :-\) with RTV red high temp silicone I bought in the auto parts section of Wal-Mart. I smeared it on real good on the surface of the gasket, and it is holding up fine even with Creosote contacting it. Before this is was toast in the first week of owning the furnace.

It sounds like not enough airflow is your problem. Keep us posted!



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Acme Furnace Company / Re: New Acme Furnace
« on: January 29, 2014, 08:29:07 AM »
The house has decent insulation but my pieces are not over 250 my splitter will not split them that size max length is 25" so as you said that might be my problem I will have try getting longer pieces ..A friend of mine has a small scale lumber mill he has plenty of hardwood trimmings off full length logs that are any ware from 6-8" thick I'll go get a load this weekend and try ..Also I noticed if the wood is not right over grate it does get up to temp

I make sure the grate is covered with wood, and behind the grate has some wood too when reloading. I have been using about 3' to 4" lengths of wood when possible and this helps a bunch too.

When I reload I rake the ashes/coals over the grate and reload it with wood. Gets the fire ripping fast!

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: New Acme Furnace
« on: January 28, 2014, 07:24:40 AM »
Scott it was little power house boiler the firewall is made of 16 gauge steel all I did was throw a large log in it hitting the back of the furnace and it ruptured.. All in all it did a great job heating for a little boiler just very light weight metal used on all the parts ...Burt out grates yearly and the door after second yr was so warped could not get a tight seal..so I made my own used 1/4 angle and plate stopped warping ..I would have felt a little better if it lasted me at least 10 yrs instead of 4 or 5. I just installed the acme seems to be heating the house great very warm just can't get more than 7 hrs burn time so that's a little disheartening being that the other one only gave me 5 hrs..

How big is your house? Does it have good insulation? Was just wondering... 7 hours is not good.

I have my "aquastat" set to about 165-170 degrees.

It was in the single digits and is about 10* outside now. I got 10.5 hours of burn time last night and still had some wood left this morning. Two showers this morning before I put more wood in this morning too.

I did fill it pretty full last evening! Thru a couple of green pieces in there too. I used about 4" round and about 3' long oak pieces.

If I use the split 20" long pieces I used for my indoor buck stove, I will not give me good burn times! Probably about the 7 hours you were saying.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I LOVE MY ACME FURANCE
« on: January 24, 2014, 10:26:55 AM »
Make sure you get a check valve on that fresh water line so there's no chance of boiler water getting in your fresh water. Another expense that wouldn't have to be if they would have just put the fill hole on top. Its great trying to get your boiler treatment in it. I keep trying to like this thing but with 4 hookups in the back and 4 pumps bought and only able to use 1 because the stove cant handle anymore its a little hard to look positive at it. I'm headed to the cold shop now to build a new ash grate for it the other :bash: gave out last night.   

Please put pictures up of your new grate! I'm going to make mine "finer" so the coals stay put longer.

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Acme Furnace Company / Re: I LOVE MY ACME FURANCE
« on: January 24, 2014, 10:25:09 AM »
Silicone coated rope gaskets from Portage and Main!

slimjim,

I went to the Portage and Main website (which is hard to navigate) and never found the rope gaskets. Can you direct me to them please?


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