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Title: Smoke stack extension
Post by: abarton on January 11, 2012, 05:35:03 PM
I thought about extending the smoke stack on my Taylor to 20 feet or so just to get the smoke higher off the ground.  Anybody tried this and did you have any problems?
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: willieG on January 11, 2012, 05:51:04 PM
many have added stack to their stoves. personally i see no harm in it..some say you can increase the draft with a long stack and that does make sense. if you think you have too much draft and are having boile over issues or you think your wood consumption is going up i can't see why you cant add a barometric "flapper" control that will allow you to set the draft to your liking.
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: abarton on January 11, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
Was just more interested in getting that smoke higher off the ground like a convential chimney.  My Taylor has forced draft so that is really not a problem. 
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: willieG on January 11, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
what i was referring too is that some folks claim with a longer chimney they get more draft. when your stoves blower is not in operation (when your stove is at idle) the extra draft may pull air in around a door or through yoru blower when it normally wouldn't with a short chimney. if this were to happen you could get boileover. if you were to add the barometric flapper, that would control your draft. this draft control could keep your actual draft on the stove the same (or very close too) as it was when your chimney was shorter
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: MattyNH on January 11, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
Forced draft wood boiler owner here. Extended tall stack as well...Its like night and day compared to the factory stack (smoke wise)...No problems at all..Just run a hot fire here and there to keep your stack clean..Also spend the money and buy the good pipe.. If money is tight...Wood stove pipe works..But you'll be buying it every yr cause it rots.. Plus it plugs up since its not insulated..Been there done that lol.. How high you plan on going?
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: RSI on January 11, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
Forced draft wood boiler owner here. Extended tall stack as well...Its like night and day compared to the factory stack (smoke wise)...No problems at all..Just run a hot fire here and there to keep your stack clean..Also spend the money and buy the good pipe.. If money is tight...Wood stove pipe works..But you'll be buying it every yr cause it rots.. Plus it plugs up since its not insulated..Been there done that lol.. How high you plan on going?
It helps to put a larger pipe to put around it. Round duct would probably even work for the outside pipe and it pretty cheap. Cap the ends so there is trapped air between the pipes or use some type high temperature insulation between them.
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: Crossfire800 on January 12, 2012, 04:31:23 AM
I have 14' of metalbestos on mine and its force draft as well. This I my first year running it so I dont have anything to compare it to as far as running it with no chimney. I just throw in a pile of card board every once and a while to give it a cleaning its been running since the begining of oct no boilovers and we had some warm days during that span.
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: BoilerHouse on January 12, 2012, 05:12:06 AM
Some discussion about this issue in this post

http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=1228.0 (http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=1228.0)
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: mikenc on January 12, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
Mine has fan, I added 12ft to mine and have not had any problems. Used insulated kind tried stove pipe one year and thats all it lasted. I needed to get smoke up higher to. It does increase draft on stove or it did mine but has not been a problem.
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: abarton on January 12, 2012, 04:29:29 PM
Good input.  Just what I was looking for.  And thanks WillieG.  I think I will measure the draft at an idle with a manometer and install a barometric damper so I can match the draft no matter the height.  I was thinking about using a piece of 8 inch galvanized well casing about 15 feet tall or so.  I could weld a base to it to bolt it to a concrete pad off to the side of the boiler and run some stainless duct to that.  That will give me a place to put the barometric damper.  Put a clean out at the bottom for a brush and I think I'll be ready to go.
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: willieG on January 12, 2012, 05:10:53 PM
i used a pieceof 8 inch schedule 40 black pipe for my chimney but i work in the chemical plansts and was able to get 1200 degree insulation and the aluminum wrap they put over that  you may not need the barometric  flapper as it sounds like most guys doent need it, i only suggested it in case  the extra chimney causes a draft through a door gasket or something that normall would not show up with the short stack
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: abarton on January 14, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
How did you mount your smoke stack willie. 
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: willieG on January 14, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
my chimney is welded right to my stove...my stove is schedule 80 pipe so it supports it. as well the box taht the chimney goes through on top of my building is made from 3/16 steel and it is bolted to 2 trusses, so it supports against any side ways motion
Title: Re: Smoke stack extension
Post by: abarton on January 14, 2012, 10:20:07 PM
Oh yeah, I guess if I had looked at your picture I would'nt have had to ask.   lol