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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #225 on: April 23, 2014, 10:37:25 AM »

Perhaps we should steal the taxpayer money to fund a study, oops already done that
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #226 on: April 23, 2014, 10:38:42 AM »

could you imagine a dinosaur fart ???

Kinda.... but I would imagine some additional wasteful government funding has financed a "Mammilian Flatuence Blast Radius" computational computer program.... probably for military purposes.  :o :P
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #227 on: April 23, 2014, 10:49:25 AM »

Haha too funny guys, hey where did Neal go  ???
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #228 on: April 23, 2014, 10:51:24 AM »

RAISING MONEY!!!!!!!!!
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #229 on: April 23, 2014, 10:52:13 AM »

Lol. You beat me to it
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #230 on: April 23, 2014, 10:55:44 AM »

He may have taken the first flight out to the arctic to check on the sea ice  :bash:
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #231 on: April 23, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »

RAISING MONEY!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't need too Slim,,, he counts on his congressional rep.'s to steal and misaapropriate it or him.  ;)
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #232 on: April 23, 2014, 10:59:27 AM »

He may have taken the first flight out to the arctic to check on the sea ice  :bash:

I see the U.S. Coast Guard's Polar Star Heavy Icebreaker making another run up north.... fueled with our wasted U.S. taxpayer dollars!  :(
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #233 on: April 23, 2014, 11:18:02 AM »

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #234 on: April 23, 2014, 12:03:36 PM »

He could also be "Out To Lunch"! That is one of Neal's favorite sayings, along with the word Indeed.
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #235 on: April 23, 2014, 12:17:08 PM »

Prius....yet another gigantic shafting to the american people.

The newest diesels in use in Europe not only get better milage than a Prius, but are actually fun to drive.

I haven't verified this yet, but my cousins from across the pond claim if you take a Blue Tec diesel and run it in lets say Beijing whats coming out the exhaust pipe is cleaner than whats going in the intake.

Diesel Co2 is half the limit of gas engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueTec

Above article is somewhat out of date, newest european standards meet or surpass our latest standards for emissions.
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #236 on: April 23, 2014, 12:44:55 PM »

Europe also has a higher cetane in their diesel which burns more complete than ours
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #237 on: April 23, 2014, 12:45:54 PM »

I meant higher cetane numbers
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #238 on: April 23, 2014, 06:24:06 PM »

I'd be interested in some numbers, lets say comparing todays animals vs back say in the early 1800's when it would take one buffalo herd hours to go by. Just out of curiosity as I'm sure domesticated numbers are higher than the animals in the wild a few hundred years ago.

A interesting little factoid, the deer population in Indiana is actually higher now than when the state was settled by the white man. All the grain grown in the state makes for a high energy diet allowing more does to give birth to viable twins or even triplets.

Most of your gas from cows comes from a high corn diet, their fed all that corn to get the marbling in beef which the consumer demands.

Dairy cows are fed corn too of course, but not near what beef cattle are fed, too much corn will ruin a dairy cow vs a beef cow which the whole point is to get em fed out ASAP.

Personally I'm looking into getting certified as both humane and grass fed.
Problem is corn is expensive compared to hay, which is fed to cows for the vast majority of their food consumption.  Corn is generally used to finish off the animals or supplement forage. 

I prefer a grass fed and corn finished animal myself for meat quality.   :thumbup:

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #239 on: April 23, 2014, 06:27:07 PM »

Haha too funny guys, hey where did Neal go  ???
Went to the Henry Ford Museum for the day.   :thumbup:

But seriously though, fart jokes aside, our mass domestication of animals does indeed have a measurable impact as far as anthropogenic related emissions go.

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