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Author Topic: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?  (Read 2425 times)

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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »

At least there is a state fighting it.
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 09:43:39 PM »

 yea that is true. I just got a kick out of earth claiming there were no furnaces on the market that could pass the regs. Actually there a large number of furnaces that pass but none that earth makes which I suppose is the problem.
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 05:08:37 AM »

Which regs was he referring to?  The EPA Phase II regs or the 2015 regs?  Or the ones you mentioned for 2025 or something like that.  You mentioned that HM has a developmental stove that ALMOST passes the 2025 regs.  Could he be talking about those?
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 05:30:38 AM »

Earth has an EPA phase 2 furnace, called the Klear Sky

He was referring to the law that would take place in 2020

Just wondering if all the talk will help anything in the least

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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 05:39:10 AM »

Earth has an EPA phase 2 furnace, called the Klear Sky

He was referring to the law that would take place in 2020

Just wondering if all the talk will help anything in the least
  Are we taking bets?
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 05:45:20 AM »

Earth has an EPA phase 2 furnace, called the Klear Sky

He was referring to the law that would take place in 2020

Just wondering if all the talk will help anything in the least
  Are we taking bets?

I donno....   I'm just so tired of hearing about this crap and seeing the shape of this country it makes me sick

But I don't think any amount of griping or courts can stop any of it in this country that now operates outside of the halls of Congress.  Like the pope of hope says,  if Congress don't act he will

does the idiot not know there has been wars fought to avoid that attitude?
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 05:46:14 AM »

I just wish that "public hearing" wasn't in freaking BOSTON!!  That's not exactly accessible to folks like me who want to have their voice heard.  Not that our voices matter!  If that hearing was even 1 whole state away, I'd seriously look at going! 
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 05:51:37 AM »

 Maybe the article just read a bit strange. Sounded as if they were saying no furnaces pass any of the new regs. Heck we don't even know what the regs will look like yet. They keep changing things around.
 You are right about Earth though, I didn't realize they had one. By the ratings it looks like a small one?
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 06:38:33 AM »

Maybe the article just read a bit strange. Sounded as if they were saying no furnaces pass any of the new regs. Heck we don't even know what the regs will look like yet. They keep changing things around.
 You are right about Earth though, I didn't realize they had one. By the ratings it looks like a small one?

It's not to small but how they do it is far different than anyone else does it.  Converter system with variable speed fans linked to oxygen sensors in firebox and stack
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Re: Earth spreading lies or is the news twisting their words?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 09:36:13 PM »

I know that I'm not the brightest, but doesn't a converter system seem to be the "duh" answer for owbs with the newer epa laws? I know that they will burn out, but couldn't it be considered a maintenance part?Surely it's a cheaper option than making everything a gassification stove. Also it would keep buying an owb an option for those on a tighter budget, trying to get out from under propane's thumb.
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