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Title: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: jackel440 on December 13, 2010, 07:46:31 AM
Ok I need to know what is the proper place to instal the y strainer in my sytem.My system is real simple. I will lay it out for you ,and then if you guys would give me a few pointers in where I should best locate them.
1 water out of boiler to pump.
2 then feed line goes all the way to plate exchanger.
3 leave plate exchanger then head to furnace.
4 go through water to air exchanger.
5 leave exchanger and then return back to furnace.

Does the orientation of the y strainer matter?or does it need to be in the vertical position?
I had originaly though of placing it before the pump right at the furnce.I then wondered if I could have an issue with it plugging ,and then causing the pump to burn up.So I was think placing it right after the pump.
Or Do I just wait and instal it right before the plate exchanger(DHW) in the house ?
What is your opinions ,and what seems to be normal practice for installing them?
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: tulenutn2o on December 13, 2010, 08:42:15 AM
Right before any heat exchangers. Mine are horizontal.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: mikenc on December 13, 2010, 10:39:32 AM
I installed mine right before heat exchanger in horizontal also.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: R W Ohio on December 13, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
I installed the Y strainer for our system,inside the house before the heat exchanger and the side arm for the water heater.I also installed ball valves on either side of the Y strainer so I could check or clean it without loosing much water.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: willieG on December 13, 2010, 03:00:24 PM
i instlled my filter in the house right after my pump (it is also in the house) it has a by pass around it so i can change the filter if needed without shutting down teh system.

link to see it below

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/billie_boy7/P2180002.jpg (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/billie_boy7/P2180002.jpg)
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: jackel440 on December 13, 2010, 06:08:40 PM
Thanks for the pic Willie :thumbup: Your piping looks real nice.What kind of filter is that?
I will place my Y strainer right before my plate exchanger at the beginning of my circuit after the pump.Thanks everyone
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: willieG on December 13, 2010, 07:04:15 PM
im not sure of the name any more but it takes filters that look like a big role of string. works good, after a season teh string is a rusty color but i have never seen any real "chunks" of anything. i have never used any water condtioner but i have used an oxygen grabber to reduce the oxygen content of the water
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: jackel440 on December 14, 2010, 09:17:36 AM
I had thought of putting in one of those air seperators,but I am out of money(literally)so I will just have to hook up what I got for now.

I was curious on your filter ,as I looked at a few and none were rated for hot as water that our stoves  produce to run through them.
I thought a filter would be a great idea with the plate exchanger.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: Russ Brumit on December 20, 2010, 10:06:48 AM
I installed mine right before heat exchanger in horizontal also.

  Why horizontal ?   
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: tulenutn2o on December 20, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
Seemed like the thing to do for me, in my case= less water loss when cleaning screen. Other than that's where they ended up for me, No reason.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: maine owb on December 29, 2010, 07:20:28 PM
a good place for the stainer is just before the heat exchanger on the horizontal with the Y opening pitched slightly down. Be off the floor enough for a wrench to open the fitting to remove the stainer.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: Airgap on January 05, 2011, 01:28:49 PM
I installed mine right before heat exchanger in horizontal also.

  Why horizontal ?
The sediment will settle in the bottom of the screen, not prohibiting flow until it's completely full. Easier to remove and not lose crud back down the system as well.
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: juddspaintballs on January 17, 2011, 01:40:35 PM
I'm having issues with my mixing valve screen clogging on my domestic hot water.  I need to filter out the little particulates prior to the mixing valve.  Any ideas on a filter for hot water? 
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: dirtconnector1 on January 18, 2011, 06:32:36 PM
I'm having issues with my mixing valve screen clogging on my domestic hot water.  I need to filter out the little particulates prior to the mixing valve.  Any ideas on a filter for hot water?

Grainger rules. :thumbup: Always compare prices though,somethings can be found for less, but they always seem to have what I need. This looks pretty reasonable:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search)
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: RSI on January 25, 2011, 10:19:04 PM
I'm having issues with my mixing valve screen clogging on my domestic hot water.  I need to filter out the little particulates prior to the mixing valve.  Any ideas on a filter for hot water?

Grainger rules. :thumbup: Always compare prices though,somethings can be found for less, but they always seem to have what I need. This looks pretty reasonable:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search)
Wouldn't this be what he would want? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/APOLLO-Y-Strainer-2NYZ9 (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/APOLLO-Y-Strainer-2NYZ9)
Title: Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
Post by: dirtconnector1 on February 02, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
I'm having issues with my mixing valve screen clogging on my domestic hot water.  I need to filter out the little particulates prior to the mixing valve.  Any ideas on a filter for hot water?

Grainger rules. :thumbup: Always compare prices though,somethings can be found for less, but they always seem to have what I need. This looks pretty reasonable:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search)
Wouldn't this be what he would want? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/APOLLO-Y-Strainer-2NYZ9 (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/APOLLO-Y-Strainer-2NYZ9)

That would work too i reckon plus it's USA made. My thinking is bigger strainer= less restriction.