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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: Smakman on February 19, 2011, 08:12:47 PM

Title: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Smakman on February 19, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
Not sure which size it was, but the firebox was HUGE.  Seemed like it was awfully thin-walled though even though it was stainless.  they do have a neat shaker grate design and the exhaust is forced to come all the way forward in the firebox before being routed back to the pipe in the rear.  I wish I could find info on the newer gasification furnace they have though.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: yoderheating on February 19, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
They are made with 10 gauge 409, pretty standard for that grade I believe. I'm burning one of the gassifiers right now. I does well but I believe for your money the HE models are the way to go unless a little smoke is a problem.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Smakman on February 20, 2011, 12:30:45 AM
From the research I have done, it sounds like the gasifier is more efficient and uses less wood.  The local Heatmaster dealer says he can install one of the SS models for $7000.....that's everything, labor included.  Sounds kind of cheap to me and I know you usually get what you pay for......
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: red devil on February 20, 2011, 02:49:50 AM
smakman there good units I say jump on it , I have one and love it .
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: yoderheating on February 20, 2011, 05:50:51 PM
 Well, it depends on which model you are looking at. It doesn't sound like a bad price. My prices are listed on my website so that may give you something to compare to. I know Heat Master does say that the G200 gassifier does burn less but I have burned most of then and the MF5000 comes pretty close. When I get another stove I'm most likely going with the HE model.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: scissorbill on February 20, 2011, 06:50:21 PM
Smakman,
Stay away from Heatmaster at all costs! They are poor units and the company and warranty are horrible. There are lots of good units out there and this is not one of them in my opinion and I owned one for one terrible winter and it was enough to convince me.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: red devil on February 20, 2011, 07:35:27 PM
smakman listen to yoder he is being honest with ya!!!
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: treadyw on February 23, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
I see a lot of you complaining about how much wood you use  but a lot of that  depends on the type of wood you are burning and how much insulation you have in your house.Before you cut down someones wood burn maybe you should look at that first. I heat two homes  with mine  around 5300 sqf and i fill it once a day
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: red devil on February 23, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Treadyw there's no complaints here about wood consumption and you can go further like where someone lives and what temp they like their house at.So what kind of stove ya running? sounds like you have her running good.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: treadyw on October 07, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
Start away so long been busy splitting wood I am running a heat master 10,000e owned it for over six years now and the only problem that I have had was a pump burning out not bad
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Steve f on October 12, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Hey SCISSOR BILL, just wonderin what kind of problems did you have with your heatmaster, also witch model did you have.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Scott7m on October 13, 2011, 09:19:34 PM
Hey SCISSOR BILL, just wonderin what kind of problems did you have with your heatmaster, also witch model did you have.

I doubt he's even a valid person, he's never made a post on here that wasn't bashing headmaster, could be a competitor.. 

His stove reportedly went out 73 times then suddenly burst into flames and burned to the ground
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: scissorbill on October 17, 2011, 05:20:04 AM
Steve,
Scott got it about right,my pos heatmaster actually went out on 66 different occasions that i documented and then yes it caught on fire rendering it totally inoperable. It did not burn to the ground although that would have been fine with me. I have long said that I felt the unit was a lemon and would have gladly accepted a replacement and tried it again but it was the local dealer and the mfgr that my real beef was and is with. The local guy was an absolute dolt as far as the installation and these clowns in Canada where this pile of junk was made were total jackasses as well. Bottom line I had to take the local clod to small claims court where I was awarded a judgement and then he promptly filed bankruptcy. So I am out $6000 to these jerks so if you think I am bitter you are correct and will let everyone know what my experience was with these guys. BTW I had a Heatmor for 18 years till it finally rusted and had zero problems during that time and now have a Woodmaster ,going into year 2 with it and zero problems.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Steve f on October 21, 2011, 08:24:29 PM
hey scissorbill, what model di you have a mf 5000 or a ss 4000 also what made it burn up, i have around 200 heatmaster furnaces ot there and never had any problems like this, out of that 200 i have had 1 fail due to faulty weld, my customer got a new furnace, im just curious thanks steve
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: scissorbill on October 23, 2011, 04:53:26 AM
I had the mf5000. I have no idea what caused the fire but I do know it was lucky I was home at the time or it could have been disasterous. We had no snow at the time and lots of dry grass,woods. 3/29/10. I do know that the thing had gobs of creosote dripping out of the ash pan area and I was burning bone dry jack pine firewood. The dork from the company later told me the units do not burn jack pine. I have witness' to this. Unreal. Worst company I have ever dealt with.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: mcarter on October 23, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
Pine = sap = creosote.  Even dry/seasoned jack pine.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Smakman on January 21, 2012, 08:45:25 PM
From the research I have done, it sounds like the gasifier is more efficient and uses less wood.  The local Heatmaster dealer says he can install one of the SS models for $7000.....that's everything, labor included.  Sounds kind of cheap to me and I know you usually get what you pay for......

Well, I called them again to see if they also sell the G models.  They will, but he steered me away from them saying the regular SS model is a much better deal for the money.....which is NOW $9400.  Up $2400 in 11 months?  I don't think so.  I asked how much it would save me if I put in my own line and slab.  $350.  Yeah, I think I will look around for another dealer.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: yoderheating on January 21, 2012, 08:48:45 PM
 I've burned almost every model Heat Master makes and I believe that the e models are the way to go. I really could find little difference between an e model and a g model in wood consumption and the standard furnaces are much easier to operate.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Smakman on January 21, 2012, 09:46:30 PM
He tried to steer me away from the e models too.  I got the idea that he only wants to install one stove and anything that deviates from that he will try to move you away from.  Plus I have found other brands that seem to be every bit as good in quality that are a couple thousand less.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Scott7m on January 22, 2012, 08:17:15 AM
He tried to steer me away from the e models too.  I got the idea that he only wants to install one stove and anything that deviates from that he will try to move you away from.  Plus I have found other brands that seem to be every bit as good in quality that are a couple thousand less.

What are you pricing?  Can you elaborate on what your comparing them to? 
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: yoderheating on January 22, 2012, 08:28:11 AM
If you are worried about wood consumption the e models are the way to go. If you want a basic furnace then the others do fine. I too would be interested in what other brands and prices you have found. As a dealer who can normally under price the competition in my area I find such things fascinating. For example Heat Master doesn't have a G model that lists at $9400.00  Not sure what model you looked at but either the dealer is over pricing the G200 or under pricing the G400.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: kybaseball on January 22, 2012, 06:13:25 PM
Well I am going to stand up for my dealer and installer. I have a Heatmaster MF10000E model and we love it. I read for months before I bought one and even went and looked a several in my area. They all have their ups and downs. The gentleman that installed mine went above and beyond to make sure we are happy with our purchase. He has been back to make sure everything is going great and has answered ever time that I call him with questions. The price I paid was in line with ever other OWB that I had looked at. I have an old farm house that has very little insulation in it. It is heating our house and heating our hot water and man the wife loves the hot water. My electric bill has dropped to a fourth of what is was. This is just my opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Scott7m on January 22, 2012, 06:19:04 PM
Hey baseball.  Glad to hear everything is going good for you!  Scrap that electric budget plan!  Won't be long til they'll be out checking your meter to see what happened lol
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: kybaseball on January 22, 2012, 08:29:03 PM
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Hey baseball.  Glad to hear everything is going good for you!  Scrap that electric budget plan!  Won't be long til they'll be out checking your meter to see what happened lol



That is what I am hoping for. Might have to leave them a little note on the meter maybe saying "gone on vacation with all the money I am saving on the electric"
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: yoderheating on January 22, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
Glad the furnace is working out well for you! Your testimony goes to prove what I tell folks all the time, the dealer is just as important as the brand of furnace. 
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: kybaseball on January 23, 2012, 06:37:12 AM
That is so true. Dave Youder out of Harrodsburg Ky. He really has been there every time that I have had a question. Even after he installed the OWB and got it going we sat down at my kitchen table and he went over everything and back thur the bill changing a few things that made the bill go down a couple hundred dollars!!! Imaging that a honest dealer and then after a week he sent me a letter saying that a price of something had changed and even now saving $13.99. If that had been your average dealer you would have paid the bill and never would have know the difference. I am very pleased with my purchase of a Heatmaster anthe service that I have gotten.
Title: Re: Took a look at a HeatMaster SS today....
Post by: Bull on January 23, 2012, 05:57:46 PM
Very glad to hear this, there are still some honest people and great dealers out there.