Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Fire Wood => Topic started by: schoppy on July 24, 2017, 12:12:03 PM
-
So I felt I needed to replace the roof on my wood storage lean-to this year since it looked like any decent amount of snow would take it down. It was even rotted more than I thought. I had built it with used aluminum roofing and power poles about 25 years ago. The wood and poles are mostly rotted now and the aluminum has more holes in it than you can shake a stick at.
I had planned on putting up a new metal shed type roof using the existing poles but most of them would need replacing also. I am wondering how many people store their wood outside not under a wood shed type building and how it works for you. I always put my wood up on pallets and I do have large billboard tarps to cover the wood with if I don't put the shed back up. My wood boiler shed holds almost a half years wood supply by itself.
If I did rebuild the wood shed it would probably cost somewhere north of $700 to do for materials alone. Not sure how many years of wood burning I have left in me so that's my dilemma. Pallet and tarps or rebuild wood shed?
-
I find that pallets and tarps work very well, I store the wood down back out of sight from the wife and place one pallet at a time directly in front of the boiler loading door.
-
That's what I was thinking about also Slim. Do you just stack it or do you have sides on your pallets?
-
I built my own 8 foot long 3 feet wide, I used 3/8 3x4 web angle iron on the ends and welded 1 1/4 pipe for stake pockets for easy stacking when not in use. I'll try to get some pics posted.
-
I use pallets, 4' x 4' with simple sides from rough cut 2 x 4"s. I have a set of forks for the front as well as the rear of my tractor. I bring the pallet right in the woods or wherever I am processing the tree and I leave it there to season. In the fall, I consult my pallet "date filled" list and map (it gets crazy after a while; I number my pallets and map their location on the property). I then move the most seasoned 20 or so to a location I can get at even if we get buried with snow. I stack them 2 pallets high which minimizes ground space/area required. Then every week or so I move one of the pallets right up to my OWB door. So far (my second season doing this) it's been great!
I'd post pictures but photobucket won't let me anymore and it's not that easy to post them directly here. :-\
-
I'd post pictures but photobucket won't let me anymore and it's not that easy to post them directly here. :-\
Yah, me thinks Photobucket wants to go out of business. No way or anybody that I know will pay $400 a year just to be able to link pictures from there.
-
Yah, me thinks Photobucket wants to go out of business. No way or anybody that I know will pay $400 a year just to be able to link pictures from there.
Any other options Marty? I'm not up on all the photo hosting sites...
-
Yah, me thinks Photobucket wants to go out of business. No way or anybody that I know will pay $400 a year just to be able to link pictures from there.
Any other options Marty? I'm not up on all the photo hosting sites...
Not sure atm, their will be either a massive class action lawsuit filed against Photobucket for basically extortion or they will get away with it, if it stands as legal than I look for other sites to do the same. If nothing else they should have left it alone and let all existing photos still be linked to with a membership fee for any new photos to be linked to, that’d be perfectly legal then.
I’ve already had to fix several things on my website as the links were broke to the pictures. I have another forum I help moderate as well that I literally have hundreds of broken photo links in just my posts that no longer work, started to fix em, then quit, gonna wait to see what plays out.
I have all my photos on Photobucket as a backup, of course I also have them all stored on iCloud and Facebook (set to private albums) as well as a time capsule at home plus another external drive that I back up to every month or so, so basically I have em backed up four different ways from Sunday. I believe I have around 9000 photos. Ever tell you about the time I got to recreate 3 years worth of taxes when the hard drive crashed on one of my PC’s and the supposed on line back up didn’t work?
I still have boxes and boxes of slides the in laws gave me to try to get converted to digital.
Anyways, if your an Amazon Prime member they offer basically the same thing as Photobucket, I’m gonna start messing around with the for now.
Another option is to store em on Facebook, so far thats free and I haven’t hit a storage cap yet. If nothing else might be worth it for now to create a Facebook account and make zero friends and just use it for storage, I’m pretty sure thought they have something in place though to keep people from burning up their storage.
-
Test:
Fixture I made to build my pallets:
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/LmFrKiNnO1XGoUp6BL0vfL6UcApAFzJCUhxCZP1mYK3 (https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/LmFrKiNnO1XGoUp6BL0vfL6UcApAFzJCUhxCZP1mYK3)
-
A friend has hundreds of pieces of thin wall pipe (3/16" or so) about 9 1/2' long he said I can have all I want. Just ordered a plasma cutter to build racks 6'x4'x4' out of the pipe. Each rack should hold about 3/4 of a full cord, about all my tractor can handle, and I'll make them so I can stack them 2 high. I'll use heavy cattle fence panels for the floor and ends.
Wood will go right from the splitter to the racks and moved by my tractor after that. Should save 2 to 3 hands on steps for me depending on how many years of firewood I'm ahead.
-
A friend has hundreds of pieces of thin wall pipe (3/16" or so) about 9 1/2' long he said I can have all I want.
Wish I was was closer, that pipe would work great for a firewood tumbler, even though I think I’m going to use angle iron as the 90 degree edge would face in and might knock more bark off.
This system looks really slick. takes a $1.19 to buy one euro and bags are 18.40 euro. Shipping would be the killer even at roughly $22 a bag. Would definitely need my tumbler built to keep the trash out.
-
I sell firewood so I burn all of the "junk" I can't sell - partially rotten stuff, big nasty knots I can't split, cutoffs, what little pine I come across, and pretty much any sweetgum I get so I don't have to split it. Being junk wood, it's such a pain to stack and just soaks up rain water and rots if thrown into a pile so it goes on pallets under a carport - well actually 3 carports linked together. That is kept at my mom's farm where I process all of the firewood. I then stack 6 pallets worth at my house right by the boiler and cover it with an old pool liner which works great - never gets holes in it and is heavy enough so the wind doesn't mess with it too bad. Most of the wood sits at least 2 years before burning.
-
It's an awesome system. We saw it at the NY Woodsmen's Days show in Booneville NY last month.
-
Thy give a weight the bags will hold, wonder how that translates into cords? I’d be cutting them 23-24” long so you’d have more voids while filling it.
-
Looks like about a face cord in each. I would guess 24" would only hold 1/4 cord if that.
-
Test:
Fixture I made to build my pallets:
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/LmFrKiNnO1XGoUp6BL0vfL6UcApAFzJCUhxCZP1mYK3 (https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/LmFrKiNnO1XGoUp6BL0vfL6UcApAFzJCUhxCZP1mYK3)
This works
-
A friend has hundreds of pieces of thin wall pipe (3/16" or so) about 9 1/2' long he said I can have all I want.
Wish I was was closer, that pipe would work great for a firewood tumbler, even though I think I’m going to use angle iron as the 90 degree edge would face in and might knock more bark off.
This system looks really slick. takes a $1.19 to buy one euro and bags are 18.40 euro. Shipping would be the killer even at roughly $22 a bag. Would definitely need my tumbler built to keep the trash out.
That guy definitely took the wood processing/selling to the next level. That is what I would call a factory setup. Those bags are pretty amazing. Marty if you get your hands on a lot of those bags in quantity pricing I will buy some from you.
-
That guy definitely took the wood processing/selling to the next level. That is what I would call a factory setup. Those bags are pretty amazing. Marty if you get your hands on a lot of those bags in quantity pricing I will buy some from you.
It’d be awhile, have to have a tumbler built first, especially with as bad as some of this ash is getting, I imagine to much trash in the bags and it won’t dry. Still at roughly $22 a bag not bad, wonder just how long the bags last though? I have twenty totes I bought, the tall cages can hold a third of a cord each, the short ones it takes four, I’ve been cutting the tops off the tanks and using those as well, takes five of those for a cord, then I take the cut off top and screwing that down over the cage once full.
-
I like this setup. I turn the cages on thier sides and fasten them down on a wood pallet. Much easier to get wood in and out. I then take a piece of plastic 5x5 and lay over top and tie down keeping the firewood dry. I feel the wood will not rot very fast this way.
-
Mine, the wife much prefers the racks I build. She’ll stack wood in the cages as well but one side is partially cutout. The cutouts are great for holding paper silhouettes, step em in the ground, tape a target to em then pew pew pew to your hearts delight. She refuses to fill the plastic tanks I screw to pallets, I’m hoping those don’t last very long, as they do kinda suck.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4459/37861657111_fd5368a6ec_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFGTzz)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/ZFGTzz) by Marty Lappin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143335218@N06/), on Flickr
-
The video states the bags are 1.5 cu M and weigh 650 kgs. At 430 kg/cu M, and moisture >20%, it sounds like the bags, when filled, may be rated for softwoods. May have to de-rate the volume for oak or maple.
-
The video states the bags are 1.5 cu M and weigh 650 kgs. At 430 kg/cu M, and moisture >20%, it sounds like the bags, when filled, may be rated for softwoods. May have to de-rate the volume for oak or maple.
In the video said the guy buys beech from his suppliers.
-
Quarry about 50 miles from here uses very similar bags for delivering different kinds of stone, concrete mixes, etc. Each bag holds about 2000lb. Hydro uses them for sand as well.