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Hope someone familiar with CB Edge can help you out. Deferential and pulse is what I hear people adjust to get desired results. Seems to me like under 1000 reaction chamber temps is really low. Hate to think this is normal for an edge.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Titanium steel
« on: January 23, 2022, 03:48:00 PM »
 There's a lot of talk about the benefits of stainless in boilers and I agree to 409 the way to go.
 
 Where does it come from?  Titanium is a part of the formulation of 409. Notice that China is the main producer of titanium.
 China produces 230 times the titanium as the US. Canada 8 times more.   Where does our ' Made in US' stainless come from?

 Mill in Kentucky boasts of 90% recycled, mill in Alabama mill 80% recycled. They 'make' 60% of all stainless in US and both are foreign owned. All a mill has to do is roll and form it and can label it 'Made in USA' regardless of origin.
 Could not find any maker of virgin stock in US.
 
  Question: Is 'Made in USA' a quality thing?

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heat loss, underground piping
« on: January 23, 2022, 03:17:36 PM »
 I'd agree, just kinda pulled that number hypothetically to do a calculation.  I am happy with my system what ever the numbers are. It's been cold for us, down to about +5 , and forecast is for more of the same but can handily get 24 hrs. burn.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heat loss, underground piping
« on: January 20, 2022, 09:47:01 AM »
Same deal, wrapped pipe 125',been there for about 15 yrs, 15 more and ill let someone else worry about it.

 Just remember the days about12-15 years ago, you could buy a furnace and install kit for under $5000. Hardy , Taylor. Pacific Western, Lynx and more. People would put them downwind from their house about 30' away and run homemade or just pex inside a piece of corrugated pipe and thought they had awesome heat.  Now it's become a rich mans show piece. To me it's about saving money , not see'n how much i can spend just for braggin' rights.

 Now when it comes to fishing, that's a different story. yeah I got a pretty nice building for my bass boat. And it ain't saving me money. So I guess a man can put his money where he wants to. I think I'll go fishing.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heat loss, underground piping
« on: January 19, 2022, 03:43:03 AM »
I don't have a good number on my heat loss. Just trying to get a
some thought on economics trying to get the ultimate efficiency from an outdoor furnace. When is there more spent than is feasible to get a reasonable return. Like I have heard a number of people say they use half the wood with a gasification unit but spend just as long preparing wood and then need to store and dry it. Like I don't have a wood shed and anything goes in the 24" door doesn't get split. too much free scrap wood laying around.  Same with underground lines, worth spending a lot on underground piping if there's not enough return.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Heat loss, underground piping
« on: January 17, 2022, 11:32:08 AM »
Could someone verify my calculation; If I'm pumping 10 gpm and have 6 degree heat loss in no load round trip, 150 heating days per year.  38,000,000 btu loss or about 1.5 cords wood. Anywhere close?

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Home Made / Re: Correct pump and heat exchanger for house and garage
« on: December 15, 2021, 09:34:53 AM »
Don't see where that would be a problem. water should go in the port furthest from the air handler and return from the port closet to the air handler. putting a 'v' in the duck is fine. Unless I'm not understanding you.

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Home Made / Re: Correct pump and heat exchanger for house and garage
« on: December 14, 2021, 06:42:59 PM »
If your air is flowing up you want your water flowing down.  In at top out at bottom.so your air hits the hottest water as it leaves the coil.

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Home Made / Re: Correct pump and heat exchanger for house and garage
« on: December 14, 2021, 05:36:03 PM »
Definitely enough pump. What temp is the water coming to the house? Not boiler temp but actual water temp at the coil. Reverse water flow to air flow at coil? Yes, get the fan speed up but if it goes to high and stays on high should work.  gallons of water in stove means little, can the stove maintain 170 at the heat exchanger during a long pull.

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Home Made / Re: Correct pump and heat exchanger for house and garage
« on: December 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM »
Sorry, misunderstood your pipe length. Thought you were saying total round trip 100'. Totally agree with RSI.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Clothes dryer hookup
« on: December 11, 2021, 05:00:40 PM »
Having a lot of people asking about dryer hookup. Still using mine. Refresh this.

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Home Made / Re: Correct pump and heat exchanger for house and garage
« on: December 11, 2021, 04:46:52 PM »
The head on a 007 is low, head = pressure, so you can have a lot of gpm if you don't have to have pressure to push it down a pipe. The 009 is probably pushing more gpm down the pipe than the 007, but 100 ft. is not a long way so if it is working let it go. if you need to replace a pump at some point I'd look for a pump with head a little stronger than the 007 and less gpm, split the difference between those two pumps, like the 008 although I like a different brand.

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: January 01, 2020, 05:33:01 AM »
 I think your on the right track.  Seen it on other brands of furnaces, you get a tight spot and combustion slows and compounds the creosote and other issues. If you want to put air in the furnace it has to have a way to exhaust, just as important.
  The 1TDP7 fan runs at a higher rpm and has a higher static pressure than the larger fan and may move more air in a restricted environment. Want real push, have put dual 1TDP7's on a stove but have fire coming out the chimney.
 Your not an idiot if you learn, your smart!  Idiots blame the product,  someone else, nurse grudges, and stay stupid.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Electric bill
« on: December 08, 2019, 07:40:42 PM »
True, but hopefully it doesn't run all the time. For me I like a designed system that uses a small circulator, staged heat; dhw,ah,dryer,radiators,then infloor with one NRF22 main circulator, super high delta, warm house.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Electric bill
« on: November 09, 2019, 06:12:20 AM »
 Run mine year round. Not sure it saves me much in summer but I just like the hot water. And get some help on the dryer. But also have just one small pump for everything.

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