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mlappin

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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 11:50:44 PM »

Long as they donít decide to tighten em up even more before 2020, several manufacturers already have stoves that pass the 2020, regs. The G100 and G200 from Heatmaster already pass as well as the smaller two from Polar.
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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 03:03:02 AM »

As was mentioned in the article, cost of testing is a big killer. The timeframe is tight enough but maybe doable.... But the cost at the same time slows innovation. It's a tough situation.
It sounds like the warm air furnace manufacturers are in a tougher spot than the OWB manufacturers.
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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 07:06:25 AM »

I didnít delve into the whole article too deep, but will coal boilers still be allowed for residential use after 2020?

We went to a Steam and Power show over the weekend, you could tell which ones were burning coal by the god awful stench if you got downwind of em, made a diesel rolling coal seem like perfume. I mean these things smelled like they were burning used jockstraps, didnít matter is they were just sitting or running, they stunk.
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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 01:49:50 PM »

I didnít delve into the whole article too deep, but will coal boilers still be allowed for residential use after 2020?

We went to a Steam and Power show over the weekend, you could tell which ones were burning coal by the god awful stench if you got downwind of em, made a diesel rolling coal seem like perfume. I mean these things smelled like they were burning used jockstraps, didnít matter is they were just sitting or running, they stunk.

Growing up (er, I mean getting older) we had a coal fired boiler in the basement of our old farmhouse.  I can remember smelling the coal gases if something wasn't running just right.  Man, did that ever stink.  Roger
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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 02:25:12 PM »

I didnít delve into the whole article too deep, but will coal boilers still be allowed for residential use after 2020?

We went to a Steam and Power show over the weekend, you could tell which ones were burning coal by the god awful stench if you got downwind of em, made a diesel rolling coal seem like perfume. I mean these things smelled like they were burning used jockstraps, didnít matter is they were just sitting or running, they stunk.

I don't think the coal exemption is supposed to change but it's been a while since I read all the way through the NSPS. I'm not sure I feel like wading through it again soon either. :o A lot to absorb..
 I think the allowed emissions drop on wood units and the way they average test runs is more stringent.
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Re: New Rules for 2020
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 12:27:06 AM »

I thought I read something saying coal was good until 2025 and from then a clean burn act was in process.  This would be for power plants as well.  Called clean coal or something like that. Would need to have an electronic device in the chimney to catch all fine ash particulate plus a reburner filter and catalytic converter
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