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Heatsource1 / Re: Bankrupt

« on: December 30, 2011, 07:07:47 AM »

Yep just heard on the news last night the number of people filing for unemployment is down, they fail to tell you their unemployment has run out and they can’t file. Liberal media only tells you what they want you to hear.
 I think government is out to get the small guy with all there rules and regulations, and it is evident they are doing a pretty go job of it.

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Home Made / Re: My homemade boiler

« on: December 30, 2011, 06:36:13 AM »

Neat build 
Do you let fire go out between cycles? Or just smolder. Like the pics to. 1k not a bad investment. I use to weld but not anymore cant see to stay in grove anymore. Tried cheaters in hood not much help. Would not attempt to weld something like that anymore. Good looking job.

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Shaver Furnace / Re: New 165

« on: December 29, 2011, 10:29:53 AM »

Happy burning! Nice to save on electric bill isn't it.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Newbie

« on: December 28, 2011, 07:29:16 AM »

Welcome to the sight swede. Lots of helpful information on this sight, along with years of experence operating OWB's.Expensive toys aren't they!!! lol. The  difference between men & boys is the price of their toys!!!
Beats paying oil company every year.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: How much more wood consumption in Dec.

« on: December 28, 2011, 07:18:51 AM »

Well it snowed today and out of curiosity i ripped the foam from the pipe that runs into the mechanical room only to discover water was in the pipe.... this may be an issue.

May be gound water getting inside insulation rather than a leak. Water around piping will sure decrease effiecency. That would explane wood usuage increase along with heat demand in your house increasing due to colder weather. May need to replace or better insulate underground piping at some point. I would suggest running piping inside a casing like 4'' or 6' pvc to keep it dry if you insulate it yourself.

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Home Made / Re: new owb build

« on: December 28, 2011, 06:40:59 AM »

     Good info about grates, Martyinmi 
3/16 should be ok especially if you already have some. will probably get more heat transfere from 3/16 verses 1/4 to.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 27, 2011, 02:57:54 PM »

Well at least you have  an ides of whats needed to correct problem. Don't know if you need it but when i installed mine they recommended a 60 plate for the amout of btu needed to heat my house. 

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 27, 2011, 10:19:42 AM »

Please do, you never know the time may come when i might need to operate mine together. I am sure it can be done with the right control sequence, its just getting it hooked up the right way. I may fire up mine sometime today and see what it does. I think i would want to add a 3-way valve in order to by pass HX when oil boiler is running so i am not using oil to heat water in OWB. 

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 27, 2011, 07:16:57 AM »

If the wood boiler is heating your house ok, i think i would just turn off propane before spending a lot of money just to get propane boiler to stay on line. I have oil boiler for back up. I have never tried to keep it on line with wood boiler. It might do the same as yours. If and when i need it, i will turn switch on and isolate owb with valves i installed to keep from heating owb with oil. Just my opinion everyone has one.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: I want to share what i have learned

« on: December 27, 2011, 07:00:39 AM »

Keep all in the round i can. Rounds seem to last longer. Mine is just the opposite rounds seems to fall down better, split gets stuck to sides. Cut all mine 22'' long. Only load front of stove, and try to load according to demand. I do try to burn only seasoned wood to.

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Home Made / Re: new owb build

« on: December 25, 2011, 07:03:45 AM »

Like the drawings,great design. I like the P&M design to. If ihad it to do all over again i would buy there OWB instead of the one i bought. But that is 20/20 hind sight. Like the idea of water through grate to, get all the heat you can out of wood. Keep us posted on progress.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 24, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »

Aquastat is set to 75 degrees so the pump never shuts off.  There is a taco check valve after the circulator so that it can't feed backwards

Not sure of your piping arrangement but check valve after pump will not stop flow from going wrong way at HX if you have by-pass from supply to hx inlet. Pump should be in hx outlet or at least that is how i piped mine. so you are pulling water through hx instead of pushing. Will work either way but mechanical engineers say to pull through equip instead of pushing through.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 24, 2011, 08:51:59 AM »

Only if your flue is clogged keeping owb from comming up to temp. I Would try letting pump run constant to keep prop boiler up to temp all the time. If your operating control on prop boiler is set to close to acutual water temp of OWB it will call for heat when a load is placed on boiler causing prop boiler to fire.

You should have a by pass from prop boiler supply going back to HX inlet to circulate water and maintain boiler temp at all times. You make need a check valve in return to HX before tee so water has to go through HX instead of flowing other direction based on your piping.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Woodmaster/Propane Issue

« on: December 24, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »

Does your pump on propane boiler side run all the time circulating water through HX. If so it should keep your boiler close to same temp as your OWB.

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General Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas

« on: December 24, 2011, 06:29:09 AM »

Thanks Matty and the same to you and all the great members here.
Bill

Same here to.Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and great new year.