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 on: Today at 07:47:16 AM 
Started by mlappin - Last post by mlappin
I was just having this conversation with a co-worker. I like it when it's cold enough to layer; you can always take a jacket or a sweatshirt off if you're working or your activity level increases, but when it's hot there's only so much you can take off.

Know that for a fact before this old farm house had central AC, lay in bed practically naked and sweat the night away.

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 on: Today at 05:42:50 AM 
Started by mlappin - Last post by DeerMeadowFarm
I was just having this conversation with a co-worker. I like it when it's cold enough to layer; you can always take a jacket or a sweatshirt off if you're working or your activity level increases, but when it's hot there's only so much you can take off.

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 on: July 23, 2017, 08:43:27 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by mlappin
Easiest way to be sure, what is each building taking for BTUís now to heat? Your area is a LOT different than my area.

Would also help greatly to know the sq ft of the garage. How old is the construction? How good a windows? What type insulation in each structure? What temp do you plan on keeping the garage and pole barn? Plate exchanger or sidearm for DHW? A plate will supply endless hot water but pulls much harder than a sidearm.

Heating 2800sq ft of house the last addition was 1908, 1800 sq ft of pole barn that was built for cows and hay storage, no vapor barrier under the concrete even. I keep the shop at 65 when working, the wife likes her house at 73 during the day. We also heat roughly 120 foot of sidewalk as well. G200 works just fine, take the numbers from it and compare it to a EGR250.

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 on: July 23, 2017, 07:41:30 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by morfem
I have 2800 Sq ft house with radiant tubes in basement floor. 6 300 ft loops
With 2 air handlers with heat exchangers in house.
Attached Garage has 3 -300 ft tubes.
Pole barn is 64 x 44 with 9-300 ft loops in concrete.
Also want to do hot water.
Will the EGR 250 be big enough?

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 on: July 23, 2017, 06:30:00 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by mlappin
Just to make sure I understand and in compliance.
The bl 34-44 with shaker grate option is legal for residential use in indiana?

Only if you burn coal in it, and to be a compliant coal unit in Indiana it will need to be classified as a coal unit with UL approval because of the shaker grate option, thats my understanding of it at least. The C models from HM are sold as coal units therefore comply with Indianaís law. Your allowed to use wood to get your coal started, like some have said, if it takes most of the winter to get the coal goingÖÖ

I wouldnít be afraid of a gasifier at all, theyíve come a long ways in a short amount of time.

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 on: July 23, 2017, 05:26:13 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by morfem
Just to make sure I understand and in compliance.
The bl 34-44 with shaker grate option is legal for residential use in indiana?

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 on: July 23, 2017, 03:56:33 PM 
Started by Jon_E - Last post by slimjim
To The Top!

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 on: July 23, 2017, 03:55:25 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by slimjim
The 34-44 can be purchased with shaker grates for coal, not sure what your load is but the EGR 250 is not a big unit, the 34-44 is a beast so I'm confused on the comparison on size? Wood moisture and species, there is the big difference, the BL will burn whatever you throw at it but not nearly as efficiently as a gasser, the gasser will fall on its face with undesirable wood, your choice!

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 on: July 23, 2017, 02:19:03 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by mlappin
Technically a BL34-44 is only legal for sale in Indiana for commercial purposes. Just heating your shop is fine as well as a hog building , chicken coop or business, hook it to your house and leave me out of it. Lets not forget Indiana passed itís own law as well, so not only do you have the fed regs hanging over your head you can add Indianas as well. What is gonna actually happen to a homeowner who is purposely breaking the law? Itís anybodies guess, as a dealer for me it's a $25,000 fine. All I know is I wouldnít want to be the homeowner they decide to make an example of.

Far as finicky, I donít think anybody will argue the E Classics from CB were very finicky, the Edge seems a little better. At least the local dealer is honest with the people heís talking to as they tell me they were told by him if their wood isnít at 20% or dryer they arenít going to be happy with it.

I believe the older Optimizers from P&M arenít that finicky either, Iím not sure about the new model though. Iíd think the new model and Polarís would run about the same given they share a lot of the same features.

From October till January I went out in the woods and dropped ash trees till it started to get cluttered and I was running out of room without dropping on top of each other, the wife and I would then top em out using the Polaris Ranger, bring it up to the house and fill one of the half cord racks, went straight in the stove from there. Tops were measuring anywhere from 30-35% moisture, this was in a G400 which was oversized at the time, switched out to a G200 in February, by then had all the tops we were gonna burn gone by then and started burning split wood I ran thru the processor, that ran anywhere from 30-40% moisture, no issues other than cleaning the damper plate every 7-10 days. Ash isnít the easiest to run, doesnít make a very good coal bed, add a few pieces of hard maple, cherry or ironwood and worked even better.


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 on: July 23, 2017, 01:20:52 PM 
Started by morfem - Last post by morfem
I have been following this forum for a few months now trying to make a decision on a OWB.

I have been talking to a few people and some are steering me away from the EGR 250 and more towards the BL 34-44 with shaker grates because of a few reasons.

1-They do not like the Gasification models because they are prone to problems and finicky.
    Is that a valid point or is it just a lack of experience?

2-They do not think it will be big enough for my application.
   If that's true how are people in colder climates than I am in using these successfully?

Any advice on those 2 points? Am I missing anything else?

I like the idea of cutting less wood but do not want to waste my money either.

Side question:
Can you burn coal in a EGR 250 or BL 34-44?
If so what kind of mixture of wood to coal?

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