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Shutting her down
« on: April 29, 2017, 04:30:03 AM »

Well, after a season without any major hiccups (a couple of minor ones) and the weather starting to turn for the better, I have decided to shut down the OWB for the summer.  I'm letting what's left in her burn down and then I'll begin transitioning from the OWB for DHW to oil.  I lurk in here from time to time and perhaps need assistance with something that you guys may be able to offer guidance.  Have a great summer all.  Roger 
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2017, 09:42:48 AM »

Same to you! We're up to 84 ℉ today. I'll still burn for DHW but the green everywhere sure looks nice.
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2017, 11:18:21 AM »

Cold and wet here with a monsoon approaching. Is 56℉ today and won’t get much warmer for several more days. Was 82 the other day when I planted some soybeans.
 
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2017, 02:04:07 PM »

Same to you! We're up to 84 ℉ today. I'll still burn for DHW but the green everywhere sure looks nice.

It's been in the mid to upper 70's for the past couple of days where I am but starting tomorrow the temps may reach 60 degrees.  It doesn't take much oil to take the chill out of the house if it gets chilly.  Roger 
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2017, 10:40:25 PM »

Same to you! We're up to 84 ℉ today. I'll still burn for DHW but the green everywhere sure looks nice.

It's been in the mid to upper 70's for the past couple of days where I am but starting tomorrow the temps may reach 60 degrees.  It doesn't take much oil to take the chill out of the house if it gets chilly.  Roger

It’s not so much the heat for the house that I’m after, but the endless hot water. Seven months of PT for the back and neck after getting hit in the ass, three for the lower back and a full four months just for the neck including traction makes one very much appreciate a very hot shower, even with the water heater cranked on high, still not as hot from the G200 supplying the DHW.
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 03:40:20 AM »

I hear where you're coming from.  I too like really nice hot shower especially in the morning when it's cold outside. 

Old habits die hard, though.  I must have been still asleep because this morning at 5:30am I grabbed my stuff and headed outside to put wood in the OWB, I woke up before I got outside.  I turned around, put my stuff away and grabbed another cup of coffee.  Roger
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2017, 02:07:54 PM »

Well, other than saturating everything with oil (my job next week) the 1400 is all nice and spit shiny for the summer.  It took about 4 hours to thoroughly clean it.  Dang I hate that job, it so darned messy.  The only thing that was white on me was the area that was covered over with the mask, everything else was a pretty black color.  I must say though, the water going down the shower drain had a pretty gray color to it. 

On a serious note, I noticed the air channels on both sides is now coming apart.  The left side is much worse than the right side.  On the left side a portion of it has come completely away from the weld, plus, I found some 2 cracks in another part of it.  On the left I noticed a few cracks, nothing has separated from the welds, yet.  The panel at the further end is warping and it's only time before cracks begin to develop.  This may be the ticket I need to design a better air channel for the 1400.  Perhaps something in line like the 1450 that has removable panels to ease in cleaning it.   Roger
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 11:16:56 AM »

I haven't seen the  air channels on the 1400, but I would think that with the temp difference (and difference in expansion) between the channel and the water jacket any welded in channel will slowly crack. Wonder if you could use a cutting wheel to cut the old channel out leaving a lip sticking out at top. Bend this lip out at a 45 for a drip edge to keep moisture from running into the air channel. Drill through this lip to attach the new channel.  Then use smaller bolts to attach the new channel so it can float instead of warping. . Have drain holes at the bottom to allow creosote to run out.
Just some ideas. Definitely want to use stainless.
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 01:49:32 PM »

Yes we found that out with the welded in channels and cracking didn't we Eldon?
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 06:13:02 PM »

I haven't seen the  air channels on the 1400, but I would think that with the temp difference (and difference in expansion) between the channel and the water jacket any welded in channel will slowly crack. Wonder if you could use a cutting wheel to cut the old channel out leaving a lip sticking out at top. Bend this lip out at a 45 for a drip edge to keep moisture from running into the air channel. Drill through this lip to attach the new channel.  Then use smaller bolts to attach the new channel so it can float instead of warping. . Have drain holes at the bottom to allow creosote to run out.
Just some ideas. Definitely want to use stainless.

Removing the old air channel isn't too much of a problem, my plasma cutter will make quick work of that, all I need is a straight edge to clamp to it to make the straight cut.  My concern is the large channel at the furthest end; to make one removable but I need to make sure it doesn't effect the efficiency too much at the same time.  I had planned on using stainless to replace what's removed.  To make your concept easier for me to visualize, when you have a few minutes, could you post a quick drawing of your idea?  Roger     
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 08:58:36 PM »

Could you pm me some pictures of the existing channels? That way I'm not guessing. Thanks.
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 09:17:37 PM »



Removing the old air channel isn't too much of a problem, my plasma cutter will make quick work of that, all I need is a straight edge to clamp to it to make the straight cut. 

We had an old 3000 gallon fuel tank that was buried till it started getting water in it. After it sat around a LONG time I cut it into thirds long ways to make portable feed bunks. Anyways to make the cut the length of it I used the magnetic welders triangles and laid a board on em for a straight edge then started cutting with the plasma cutter…..


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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 03:55:47 AM »

Could you pm me some pictures of the existing channels? That way I'm not guessing. Thanks.

As soon as I get a few minutes I'll see what I can do with my iPhone.  Thanks.  Roger
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Re: Shutting her down
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 09:04:46 AM »

Just thinking I shouldn't draw anything specific off of vague memories of pictures I've seen on a forum somewhere. I may be way off.
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