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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #240 on: April 23, 2014, 06:27:46 PM »

He could also be "Out To Lunch"! That is one of Neal's favorite sayings, along with the word Indeed.
Indeed!  :thumbup:

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #241 on: April 23, 2014, 06:30:11 PM »

Prius....yet another gigantic shafting to the american people.

The newest diesels in use in Europe not only get better milage than a Prius, but are actually fun to drive.

I haven't verified this yet, but my cousins from across the pond claim if you take a Blue Tec diesel and run it in lets say Beijing whats coming out the exhaust pipe is cleaner than whats going in the intake.

Diesel Co2 is half the limit of gas engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueTec

Above article is somewhat out of date, newest european standards meet or surpass our latest standards for emissions.
The Prius has it's place, and is actually a decent car for that particular segment.  I am all for diesel vehicles.  We are getting a good handle on how to reduce emissions out of them.  I'd take a nice VW TDI.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #242 on: April 23, 2014, 07:18:53 PM »

You sure are a pompous knob, Neil.  For someone who came on this site to learn more about owb's, you seem to be full of yourself and more knowledgable than anyone else on here. Everyone else is "ignorant", "ilinformed" "full of crap" and how many other holier than thou phrases you can google.   Ironic, that the amount you know about ALL things here, you don't even own a burner.  With all your vast knowledge, why do you even need to get the menucia on this site?  You seem to ooze superior knowledge and experience from evey pour. Must be there is more weight in theory than experience, like most of these guys on here have.  Reading this latest thread has made me sick!  All the dribble you spew. 

I know I have broken a cardinal rule by my last paragraph.  I the moderators could give me one or two days to print off my PM's, I would appreciate it.  At that time I will close my account on my own.

Thank you all for your help in the past.  I will just check in under guest once in a while.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #243 on: April 23, 2014, 07:23:48 PM »

You sure are a pompous knob, Neil.  For someone who came on this site to learn more about owb's, you seem to be full of yourself and more knowledgable than anyone else on here. Everyone else is "ignorant", "ilinformed" "full of crap" and how many other holier than thou phrases you can google.   Ironic, that the amount you know about ALL things here, you don't even own a burner.  With all your vast knowledge, why do you even need to get the menucia on this site?  You seem to ooze superior knowledge and experience from evey pour. Must be there is more weight in theory than experience, like most of these guys on here have.  Reading this latest thread has made me sick!  All the dribble you spew. 

I know I have broken a cardinal rule by my last paragraph.  I the moderators could give me one or two days to print off my PM's, I would appreciate it.  At that time I will close my account on my own.

Thank you all for your help in the past.  I will just check in under guest once in a while.

Rich

I want to know what happened to Rich.

I cannot believe he has been moderated out for this posting.

Can someone please advise?

Bob
He wasn't modded out, he left on his own and disabled his account.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #244 on: April 24, 2014, 04:51:47 AM »

I sure hope not!
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #245 on: April 24, 2014, 06:38:11 AM »

I'd be interested in some numbers, lets say comparing todays animals vs back say in the early 1800's when it would take one buffalo herd hours to go by. Just out of curiosity as I'm sure domesticated numbers are higher than the animals in the wild a few hundred years ago.

A interesting little factoid, the deer population in Indiana is actually higher now than when the state was settled by the white man. All the grain grown in the state makes for a high energy diet allowing more does to give birth to viable twins or even triplets.

Most of your gas from cows comes from a high corn diet, their fed all that corn to get the marbling in beef which the consumer demands.

Dairy cows are fed corn too of course, but not near what beef cattle are fed, too much corn will ruin a dairy cow vs a beef cow which the whole point is to get em fed out ASAP.

Personally I'm looking into getting certified as both humane and grass fed.
Problem is corn is expensive compared to hay, which is fed to cows for the vast majority of their food consumption.  Corn is generally used to finish off the animals or supplement forage. 

I prefer a grass fed and corn finished animal myself for meat quality.   :thumbup:

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Yup, used to have a dairy before the 70 head of beef cows. Even back in the day the dairy cows always had corn in their rations. Of course not as expensive if you grow it, dry it, store it and process it yourself. The beef cows get the fines that come out of the grain cleaner, not about to grind $4 plus a bushel corn for feed.
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« Reply #246 on: April 25, 2014, 02:00:59 PM »

Hmmm.....  Looks like this thread took off without me
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« Reply #247 on: April 25, 2014, 02:04:27 PM »

It was a good time Scott!
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« Reply #248 on: April 25, 2014, 02:07:03 PM »

any miniute now someone is gonna call somebody a poopyhead  :thumbup:
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #249 on: April 25, 2014, 06:41:10 PM »

Kaka cranium for short
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #250 on: April 26, 2014, 07:16:25 AM »

Manure membrane....   :thumbup:

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« Reply #251 on: April 26, 2014, 10:23:56 AM »

Here is an interesting thought.

People who are respected and looked to for good solid advice in a certain area (let's say wood heaters) can lose credibility to 50% of those in ear shot when discussing political issues.

What is it about politics that makes someone lose their objectivity?

If any of us happened upon someone's home brewed wood fueled hot water heating system, we could look through the system with an objective view of it and realize whether it is functional and to what degree of efficiency. But, see a statement concerning a political issue and immediately the blinders come on and it's all about ragging the opinion of the opposing party. 

We have the political system that for years has been coveted by most of the world and yet we take it for granted and taint its very principles by choosing to make enemies of our own fellow citizens. I say "Do not let some group of people splinter us with their propaganda machines. Refuse to be instigated against your fellow citizens"

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #252 on: April 26, 2014, 10:38:29 AM »

LIBERTY is worth discussing at all levels, do we not have the liberty to express our opinions without being chastised for it,
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« Reply #253 on: April 26, 2014, 10:52:36 AM »

LIBERTY is worth discussing at all levels, do we not have the liberty to express our opinions without being chastised for it,

Well sure, unless of course the IRS gets involved
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« Reply #254 on: April 26, 2014, 11:03:15 AM »

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on the credibility issue our political rants have absolutely nothing to do with good advice, and knowledge of outdoor boilers. There are multiple political parties and political views that's how our debates get started its all in the name of entertainment don't hold it against us. :thumbup:
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