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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Central Boiler => Topic started by: Roger2561 on May 24, 2018, 02:48:00 AM

Title: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 24, 2018, 02:48:00 AM
Yesterday I took possession of a new CB Classic Edge 550 HD with Wi-Fi.  It's the titanium stainless steel unit.  My E-Classic 1400 was working great when I pulled it off the pad.  My nephew wants it so I'm getting it ready to get it to him, he should get a few more years out it.  It's just the maintenance will be much easier with the Edge 550 than it is with the 1400.  My lower back and neck problems do not allow me the luxury of keeping it.  Roger       
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: the trailmaster on May 24, 2018, 04:15:33 AM
Roger   Could you post pictures soon as you install?  I think many would love to see the next generation of boilers coming out.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: E Yoder on May 24, 2018, 04:21:27 AM
Yes, I'd like to see pictures too.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 25, 2018, 04:39:13 AM
Hi guys - I didn't see your request for photos until this morning.  I hope to have time to post some later today.  Looking this thing over, it will be much easier to keep the Hx clean, access to it is so simple compared to the E-1400.  I want to go to the local HVAC supply store and pick up a boiler brush that I can use to sweep through the fins of the Hx.  The reaction chamber can be accessed from the front and back making it much easier to get all of the ash out of it.  One of the things on my to do list is get the wi-fi sinc'd to my iPhone sooner rather than later.  From my iPhone I will be able to make some changes to a few of the parameters (i.e. high set-point, pulse setting, and a couple of others).  Roger   
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on May 25, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
very awesome keep us updated
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 26, 2018, 02:46:29 AM
Okay guys, here's a couple of the pics of my CB Classic Edge 550 HD.  The first pic is of the vertical heat exchanger, accessed by simply opening a door in the rear of the OWB.  The second pic is the primary and secondary combustion elbow.  That chain is connected to a stepper motor (not in view) via a shaft, no more solenoids to fail.  I'll add a few more pics when I get a chance to take more of them.  I've been trying to get the wifi to sinc with my cell phone but it fails to do so.  I believe it's more of operator malfunction as opposed to equipment malfunction.  I'm not to give up so I'll keep trying.  Heck I have all summer to get it to work for me. 
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: RSI on May 26, 2018, 08:43:02 AM
Don't you have to connect the wifi to an access point? Seems like directly to your cell phone wouldn't make sense since it would loose connection as soon as you leave.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: E Yoder on May 26, 2018, 08:53:13 AM
The stepper motor is intriguing, where is it located?  Solenoids haven't been the most reliable, altho the current model we have on C series has been pretty good. The old 4x240 ones seemed to have gone down in quality. I wonder if a stepper motor could be retrofitted on old models, is it big?
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 26, 2018, 09:09:31 AM
Yoder - When I get a few minutes, I'll try to get to get a pic of the stepper motors.  They are not that big.  Below the fire door there's a panel which is easily removed to access them.  With exception of the pump and electrical connections and the vertical Hx, everything is in the front.  The reaction chamber can accessed from the front as well as the rear.  Roger
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: the trailmaster on May 26, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
Roger   Looks great, how did you extend the wiring and pex from the back to the side, or did you just reposition the unit.  In my thinking I was concerned how to accomplish that challenge as I already have pored pad. Thank you for the pictures.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 26, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
Roger   Looks great, how did you extend the wiring and pex from the back to the side, or did you just reposition the unit.  In my thinking I was concerned how to accomplish that challenge as I already have pored pad. Thank you for the pictures.

trailmaster, I have mine on pavers(sp?) so the center isn't covered, it's bare pea-stone with approximately 6 inches of clearance.  Before the guy lowered the OWB in place he put in the splice kit that CB has available, I extended the electrical.  Once that was done he was able to lower the OWB in place and I finished the connections; plumbing, electrical, etc... It made no sense to me to spend a lot of money to do something I'm more than capable of handling myself.  As for the electrical, I simply put in a weather proof junction box under the OWB which is accessible by removing the center rear paver.  I used 12/2 with ground uf-b cable anyway so it should be okay. 
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: the trailmaster on May 26, 2018, 08:47:52 PM
Sounds great, can't wait do see how she goes.  Good luck!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 27, 2018, 03:13:30 AM
Don't you have to connect the wifi to an access point? Seems like directly to your cell phone wouldn't make sense since it would loose connection as soon as you leave.

RSI - You are correct, I "misspoke", it has to link to my wireless modem.  I believe part of my problem for it not linking up is it may be too far from the OWB, it's about 130 feet away.  I'm going to check with Comcast to see if they off a signal booster, which should help. 

Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: RSI on May 27, 2018, 06:48:04 AM
You are probably better off just getting a wifi extender from somewhere like Bestbuy or Walmart.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: mlappin on May 27, 2018, 03:17:02 PM
You are probably better off just getting a wifi extender from somewhere like Bestbuy or Walmart.

Exactly, one from Comcast, ATT, Sprint is most likely the same thing from Walmart or Staples but with a different case and a much higher price tag.

I installed a outdoor access point on the back porch to get a stronger signal in the shop.

As long as you can see the back porch I’ve been at the back of the farm and still had wifi, almost half a mile maybe.

https://www.amazon.com/N300-Waterproof-Installation-Controller-EAP110-Outdoor/dp/B06XY1GHP2/ref=sr_1_1?srs=2530652011&ie=UTF8&qid=1527455771&sr=8-1&keywords=tplink+outdoor+access+point
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on May 27, 2018, 05:21:52 PM
Marty - Thanks for the link and tip, I'll be ordering it soon.  Roger
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: mlappin on May 27, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
Marty - Thanks for the link and tip, I'll be ordering it soon.  Roger

It works well, I’ve had no issue since I installed it in March. I set the network to private so nobody else tries to use it, not that I’m horribly worried about that. Interesting part is I have a strong wifi signal thru out the entire house now, even the basement. Biggest pain in the butt is running an ethernet cable to it from your router. I just bought bulk cable and already had the tools for doing male or female ethernet plugs.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: RSI on May 27, 2018, 10:18:51 PM
If you get a repeater, you wouldn't have to run a cable.
If the central boiler interface has a cat5 plug on it, another option would be a set of power line ethernet adapters. That would skip having to deal with the wifi completely.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: mlappin on May 28, 2018, 01:00:39 PM
If you get a repeater, you wouldn't have to run a cable.
If the central boiler interface has a cat5 plug on it, another option would be a set of power line ethernet adapters. That would skip having to deal with the wifi completely.

Actually in my case i tried a repeater, set it outside under the eave, still a wimpy signal in the shop if at all, tried it just outside the shop, still didn’t like trying to send a signal thru metal siding and foil faced insulation.

Would probably work perfectly fine for Roger though as the boiler is outside anyways.
Title: Re: Classic Edge 550 HD
Post by: Roger2561 on August 04, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
Well, finally!  I got the wifi to link up with my router using the A/P Marty suggested.  The problem was an operator malfunction as opposed to a device problem.  Once I got my head turned around and input the correct perimeters, she linked up just fine.  As a test I ran an ethernet cable over my living room floor, through my kitchen and into the back shed where I placed the A/P unit.  Now everything was in range and she connected beautifully.  Now I only have to figure out how I'm going to run my cable to make it a more permanent install.  Oh well, another problem for another day.  Roger