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Central Boiler / Re: Crazy - magic heat?
« on: February 21, 2021, 06:26:59 PM »
Thats unusual for sure.... Was it just a one time only thing or is it repeating?  Maybe the pump airlocked for a bit? Temp sensor is reading erratic?
If the pump is old, sometimes the impeller starts to disintegrate and causes problems.
Is it still reliably delivering heat to the home?

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Central Boiler / Re: boiler not going into high?
« on: February 14, 2021, 07:37:54 PM »
It sounds like you might be fighting through some green firewood. These downdraft gasifiers run like a scalded dog on dry wood, but can struggle if the moisture content gets too high. You need a good coalbed to keep a good burn going and the greener the wood, the harder it is to maintain one.

It seems counter intuitive, but when the stove is in "low" mode, its actually trying its hardest to reignite the wood. All of the combustion air is forced into the firebox to get the fire relit. Its only when reaction chamber temps rise above 550 that the secondary damper opens and starts diverting some of the combustion air into the secondary chamber to help with the reburn. At least that's how it works in my older version of the Edge.

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Central Boiler / Re: Server failure?
« on: January 11, 2021, 07:23:05 PM »
Huh,  I was having problems too. Rebooted the furnace, router etc.... Still had sporadic connectivity issues.
Good to hear it wasn't on my end.
Seems to be working good today now.

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Central Boiler / Re: Extra parts; handy
« on: January 11, 2021, 07:14:24 PM »
I keep a spare fan, pump, and solenoid on hand for the very same reason. Murphys law says they seem to go out at night or on weekends when nothings open.

Unless CB changed motors, the oil ports are 2 small holes... Maybe 1\4 inch in diameter. One on each end of the motor itself. There easy to miss if your not looking close. At least thats where they are on mine, but my stove is going on 6 years old now. They might have changed the newer ones.

Anyway... Glad to hear you got it up and going. And as luck would have it, you had the spare parts at home on the shelf.

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Equipment / Re: Battery chainsaw
« on: April 22, 2020, 07:19:06 PM »
A buddy of mine has the same saw. I got to use it for a couple days last winter and I was impressed.  Kept the Stihl 440 around for felling and the bigger rounds but for limbing and smaller stuff that little saw can't be beat. The convenience factor is nice too. No gas, no choke, no rewind pull cord. Just grab the saw and go.
Thinking about picking one up myself

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: What happened
« on: January 22, 2020, 06:39:21 PM »
So what happened to shut this place down last week?
Someone forgot to fill the stove and the fire went out.

Now that's funny.  ;D

Who hasn't been there before.......

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Central Boiler / Re: Replacing Sequoyah E3400 with CB Classic Edge 750 HD
« on: January 22, 2020, 06:34:24 PM »
Ya, once the acorn nuts are off, its just a friction fit. Yours is newer so might be a bit different, but with mine, there's a small bevel on the top side of the channel. I take a large screwdriver and push/tap it in and start there. I start at the back and work the top and bottom of the channel loose toward the front. They extend into the grove/channel of the stove an inch or so and creosote will somewhat cement them in, but they come out pretty easy if you keep working the edges and breaking the creosote loose.

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Central Boiler / Re: Replacing Sequoyah E3400 with CB Classic Edge 750 HD
« on: January 22, 2020, 03:16:20 PM »
I've used a large screwdriver to pry out the side channels. I start at the back of the stove and work it out toward the front. Might have to tap it in with a hammer to get it started. Just be careful not to bend or deform them. Once you get it started they come right out.
As far as the acorn nuts, if they give you trouble, try heating them up with a small torch. Snapped a few off myself at first. Creosote seems to work its way in them and a propane or map gas torch loosens them right up. Use some high temp anti-seize when you reassemble and they'll come out easier next time.

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WoodMaster / Re: Bought by CB?
« on: January 15, 2020, 06:32:44 AM »
I am seeing the rights/patents to a EPA approved furnace being bought here.  hmmm.

I was wondering the same thing. They really didnt need another conventional boiler and already have a dealer network.
There was some buzz around Woodmasters Cleanfire when first released but nothing since. Hopefully CB can take it to the next level. Nice to have other options developed then the standard downdraft gasifiers.

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Central Boiler / Re: Edge
« on: December 31, 2019, 06:48:51 AM »
Roger, This is my 5th season with it now and its never ran better. They came out with a kit last year to upgrade the front air channel to match what the new stoves are like and it made a difference. Creosote could run down behind the old channel and would eventually plug things up. Usually had to shut down once or twice a year to clean things out.  There's a drip edge in place now that solved that problem. I'm also running it hotter this year with a larger temp swing.  Ive got it set at 190 with a 15 degree differential. (Vs 185 and a 10 degree swing).  The hotter temps and longer burn times seems to lead to a drier firebox. Were nearly 1/2 way through the season already and its showed no signs of plugging up and theres minimal creosote in the primary elbow now. Ill probably open it up just to have a look, but im hoping to get a full season out of it now without having to shut down and clean.

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Central Boiler / Re: Edge
« on: December 30, 2019, 03:25:15 PM »
I have an Edge 550 up and running for 3 weeks here in Northern Ohio. Highest chamber temp I have seen is 1250 and was curious if that temp should hold or if it always drops to 200 plus at idle on your guy's stoves.

Dropping into the  200's between burn cycles is normal. You'll only see the high reaction chamber temps when the stove is calling for heat.

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Central Boiler / Re: Edge 750 users
« on: December 11, 2019, 07:17:12 PM »
I switched from a similar stove (5648) to an edge 4 or 5 years ago. They do burn differently. As with any gasifier, they prefer dry wood. I've burned semi-seasoned stuff with mixed results. It works but its not ideal and results can vary greatly depending on how green the wood is and how much of it you burn. Mixing some in with dry stuff works much better then a steady diet of unseasoned.  I've read the new design with the stepper motors replacing the solenoids are more tolerant of unseasoned wood, but I've no experience with these.
The good thing is he'll be burning a lot less wood and hopefully can get ahead on the wood pile.  Once you get ahead and can burn seasoned wood, these stoves are awesome. 

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As I have already mentioned, my point was to do your homework if the objective is to save money. Seeing as you have no interest in doing the homework, you will simply be throwing $hit at a wall. Enjoy.

Do my homework says the guy who thinks you can heat 1500 sq ft in MN for $300.
Thanks for the laugh dude, you just made my day.

If you've read any of my previous posts, you'll see I've heated this building with propane before and I still have the heat loss calcs. from when I built it.  I can tell you right down to the gallon how much this building will use at any given time or temperature. 
So......Given this knowledge, and after factoring in propane prices and the cost involved in swapping out stoves, Yes, I have chosen to heat with wood. I know somehow this bothers you....If you feel I need to get more precise then this then please enlighten me, as I'm just a simple homeowner here and you clearly have all the answers. Its wonderful support such as yours that truly makes makes this forum great.

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The subject was never about wood usage, it was weather or not I could use a conventional for an outbuilding. It was a $300 a year propane claim where this thing kind of slid off into the ditch.  And I guess im not sure where your trying to go with this. Is my guesstimate of 2-3 cord off? Could very well be. Conventional efficiencies run anywhere from horrible on the low end to darn close to gasifiers on the top end.  I could be way off, I could be pretty close... To be honest, I really don't see the point in arguing over it anyway.  I could guess 2 cord, 4 cord, 7 cord...... We could argue that x amount of wood equals x amount of propane...... It doesn't matter.  The cost of the wood is, and always will be next to nothing. 

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Its not the wood usage I'm talking about here. It was your original comment that you can heat a 30x48 in MN to 55 degrees with propane for $300 or $400 that I disagree with.  I guess theoretically its possible, but your gonna have to source a long term supply of EXTREMELY cheap propane to pull it off. I still have the heat loss calcs for this building.  Keeping it at 55 and going with last years price, Id burn past the 3 or 4 hundred dollar mark sometime in January. If the the price ever goes up again, (which it will) it will only get worse.

So at the risk of beating a dead horse here, how about we just agree to disagree on this one.

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