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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2014, 08:19:05 AM »

 :post: Scott I agree!
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2014, 08:53:14 AM »

Humans havent been on this planet long enough to know if a warming climate is good or bad, or if we are outside normal ranges. 

So did buffalo farts cause global warming to start in 1800?  Or was it the musket barrels of the civil war? 

This Earth has warmed and cooled for billions of years,  if u look at the earths life as 24 hours, u aint gonna learn crap about it by looking at the last 6 seconds of the day..  If its that long

The earth has been much hotter than it is now, its been much colder.  Humans cant be blamed for those because we werent freakin here.   It was natural.
You keep coming back to a good/bad ideal, which is an ambiguous label.  Change can be both good and bad.  Outside of our general baseline will cause problems for our species.  Those problems can be viewed good or bad. 

Did you fall asleep during history class or what?

Of course the Earth has warmed and cooled for billions of years.  That has no bearing on our current situation, and involvement in the present change. 

You make no point, of course the Earth has been warmer and cooler before.  Yet again, that has no bearing on our current situation and involvement in the present change.  It is a pointless argument.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2014, 08:53:50 AM »

Do you drive a smart car Neal?
I do not.

I drive a 2500 Dodge Ram.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2014, 08:55:13 AM »

Do you drive a smart car Neal?

Nah, unless he's a complete hypocrite he'd walk everywhere as even a smart car contributes to global warming couldn't ride a bicycle either as as the manufacturing process would contribute to global warming.

He'd also cut all his wood by hand with a buck saw and split it by hand as well as any gas powered tool would add to global warming.

He'd also use a wheelbarrow to bring it all from the woods to the stove as even using a mule and wagon would add to global warming.

He'd also have his house running a hundred percent off solar as using electricity from the grid adds to global warming.

He'd have his kids pedaling a bicycle with a generator on it for those long winter days with no sun for when the solar doesn't work.

In other words he'd live in a cave.
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2014, 09:02:50 AM »

Nice little video that covers about everything. Even the BS happening in Nevada right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2014, 09:14:41 AM »

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2014, 09:32:51 AM »

Do you drive a smart car Neal?

Nah, unless he's a complete hypocrite he'd walk everywhere as even a smart car contributes to global warming couldn't ride a bicycle either as as the manufacturing process would contribute to global warming.

He'd also cut all his wood by hand with a buck saw and split it by hand as well as any gas powered tool would add to global warming.

He'd also use a wheelbarrow to bring it all from the woods to the stove as even using a mule and wagon would add to global warming.

He'd also have his house running a hundred percent off solar as using electricity from the grid adds to global warming.

He'd have his kids pedaling a bicycle with a generator on it for those long winter days with no sun for when the solar doesn't work.

In other words he'd live in a cave.
Loads of blather.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2014, 09:33:45 AM »

Nice little video that covers about everything. Even the BS happening in Nevada right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
Idiotic propaganda intended for weak minded individuals.

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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2014, 09:53:37 AM »

Neal,

And we are back to insulting members of this forum eh?

Typical response from the left, environuts, and the animal rights folks.

Can't discuss it in a calm rational manner then they resort to name calling instead.
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2014, 09:55:06 AM »

What do you do for a living Neal?
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2014, 09:57:21 AM »

Nice little video that covers about everything. Even the BS happening in Nevada right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
Idiotic propaganda intended for weak minded individuals.

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Man, how ironic, that's exactly the way I feel about people who fall for the idiotic propaganda called global warming.
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Re: our wood stoves are horrible but epa thinks this is fine
« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2014, 10:35:48 AM »

Neal,

And we are back to insulting members of this forum eh?

Typical response from the left, environuts, and the animal rights folks.

Can't discuss it in a calm rational manner then they resort to name calling instead.
Seems to me I replied to you insinuating that I was a hypocrite.....  thus the onus would be on you.

Doctor heal thyself.

If you think I am a left leaning environut animal rights guy you are an idiot or ignorant, take your pick.

I'm calm, you are the one who seems to have bunched up panties, and trying to incorrectly label me with some asinine qualifiers.

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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2014, 10:36:40 AM »

What do you do for a living Neal?
I'm an engineer and farmer.

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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2014, 10:39:27 AM »

Nice little video that covers about everything. Even the BS happening in Nevada right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
Idiotic propaganda intended for weak minded individuals.

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Man, how ironic, that's exactly the way I feel about people who fall for the idiotic propaganda called global warming.
If you wish to disregard factual data (that the earth has warmed over the past couple centuries) for some hack opinion piece that provides and insinuates inaccurate positions be my guest. 

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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2014, 10:45:41 AM »

Oh so you are not a climatologist? You had me convinced you were  :o
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