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Title: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: agriffinjd on October 30, 2018, 12:26:52 PM
So I found a pic I took of my main pump after it was installed.  It is moving water through 1.25" lines 225' from the stove.  It's a Badger Circulation Pump Type GPD 25-10SFC No. 13110813.  Finding the pic reminded me that I should buy a new one to have on hand (should have done it while building the house) in case something were to happen and it'd need a quick replace.  However, I can't find where to buy this model pump.  When I go to the badger-pipe.com website and look at their pumps, I don't see it.  I see a whole bunch of model 14113362s but no 13110813s.  Anyone know how to find the 13110813 model?  I guess a call into the business would be appropriate.  I didn't buy the pump so I'm only googling to try to find where they're from.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: mlappin on October 30, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
With 1.25 lines Id think a Grundfos 26-99 three speed would replace it nicely, probably be the last pump youd have to replace as well.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: agriffinjd on October 31, 2018, 05:06:01 AM
Would the grundfos have the same dimensions (as in is it universally sized) and be an easy replacement in the middle of winter, or would I have to change the copper piping while changing it too?
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: E Yoder on October 31, 2018, 05:32:09 AM
Flange to flange dimensions and bolt spacing are all the same on many brands, Grundfos, B&G, Taco, etc.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: Boydz on January 22, 2019, 10:58:10 AM
Definitely skip the badger pump and get the Grundfos. My Badgers have been horrible.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: wreckit87 on January 22, 2019, 02:48:19 PM
I would also go with the Grundfos. Great prices on ebay for a 26-99. The one you have is pretty small for your distance anyway, I can only assume you heat load is either quite low or the delta quite high. 26-99 would be a more proper size
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: E Yoder on January 23, 2019, 03:24:48 AM
I'm not understanding- the Badger 25-10 is pretty close to the same size as a 26-99. ? Maybe I missed something.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: agriffinjd on January 24, 2019, 07:15:48 AM
I would also go with the Grundfos. Great prices on ebay for a 26-99. The one you have is pretty small for your distance anyway, I can only assume you heat load is either quite low or the delta quite high. 26-99 would be a more proper size

I'm not an HVAC or plumbing guy, so I'm not sure how to answer on the heat load.  The house is 4000 sq. ft. and super insulated (R60 blown-cellulose attic, R20 dense-pack cellulose walls, R7.5 foam board wrapped around the entire house under the siding).  We built in 2014.  It's been heating the house and the 1200 sq. ft. detached garage (R50 blown-cellulose attic, R20 fiberglass batt walls), along with DMH, just fine.  Does a super-insulated house equate to a low heat load?

Here we are January 24, and I still haven't purchased another pump.  I tend to procrastinate.  In fact, I once wanted to go to a seminar on how to stop procrastinating, but I kept putting off signing up for it until it was too late... ;-)
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: BoilerHouse on January 24, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
It's not just the heat load, but the 225 ft that the pump needs to push water through.  That is quite a distance.  I would probably check out a pump curve of the Badger and compare it to the competitors.  I once owned a Chinese Wasser 25-10 3 spd pump whose  direct replacement was the Gundfos 26 99 3 spd.  The pump curves were pretty much identical between the two pumps for all three speeds. 
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: RSI on January 24, 2019, 12:02:29 PM
The Wasser and Badger pumps have the same model number and look the same so I am guessing they are the same thing. They look like a direct knockoff of the Grundfos 26-99.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: mlappin on January 24, 2019, 02:18:31 PM
The Wasser and Badger pumps have the same model number and look the same so I am guessing they are the same thing. They look like a direct knockoff of the Grundfos 26-99.

Most likely are, the chinese arent exactly known to honor patents or anything.
Title: Re: Badger Circulation Pump
Post by: wreckit87 on January 25, 2019, 08:41:31 PM
I'm not understanding- the Badger 25-10 is pretty close to the same size as a 26-99. ? Maybe I missed something.

Crap, you're right. I had my wires crossed and was thinking of the Stiebel Eltron knockoff of a 15-58. Pardon me