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Pennrungold

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Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« on: December 01, 2009, 02:32:49 PM »

I wanted to let folks know about a meeting being held tomorrow in Cranberry Pa.

The EQB and DEP are proposing significant new restrictions on the use of outdoor wood fired boilers. Many people rely on these boilers to affordably heat their homes and should not be subject to unwanted and unneeded regulation by the state. Local governments already have the authority to regulate these boilers if needed. If these state regulations are allowed to go through as-is, there's no telling what the Rendell administration will go after next. :bash:

Sorry about the last minute post.  Just heard about this.
Here is an article about the regs at GoErie.com

Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
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Wilbur
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 12:22:32 PM »

A little late to the game, but what was the outcome of the meeting?
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 02:57:19 PM »

Sorry I can't tell you what happened.  I think the meeting was for public comment, not that they would really pay any attention to it.  I think it is required by law.  I am sure we will find out though soon enough.
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Wilbur
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2010, 09:31:27 AM »

this is concerning... I was wondering has anyone had similar problems in their area... i know alot of laws are being made all over but has anyone been faced with a retroactive law.  i didnt know they could enforce laws on prexisting stuff???
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 06:00:48 PM »

Ohio EPA is reviewing some sort of restrictions as well.  One of the guidelines being considered was a grace period to get your wood furnace in compliance with emissions standards.  If not you would be required to shut it down or install one that was in compliance. 

This is still being drafted and has been for  the past 1-2 years.  1st comment period has passed

I hope you PA doesn't impose them either.
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 06:10:44 PM »

I figure the workaround is that if you have shaker grates, you can burn coal (most of the restrictions are only on outdoor WOOD boilers) or building a shed around it making it an INDOOR wood boiler. 
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2010, 11:03:26 PM »

It all comes down to the oil/gas company losing money.That is the real problem.
And they think we are to dumb to figure that out.

If everybody went out and got a boiler they would pass the laws faster then you could get them installed.
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 07:54:09 PM »

Here is url to a story of an owner being given the shaft.
 http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/use-of-wood-stoves-becomes-burning-issue-in-jefferson-twp-1.667493
I have heard rumor of the DEP easing up on their regulations.
Burn Baby, Burn!
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Wilbur
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 08:31:28 PM »

thats the reason i dont want any neighbor to know i have a owb! as soon as they smell smoke , i'll be blamed.  even though its someone else. i read stories like this and have to wonder if these owners are victims or just stupid enough to buy and install one in subdivision or on a small lot with neighbors  close buy? then there are some who load up the furnace [a friend of mine] with crap that a nuclear reactor would have a hard time burning..and doesn't think thats a problem.i tell him its guys like him that ruin it for the rest of us. as the days get warmer in the 50s i am considering to shut off switch so it wont start during the day . it will still hold enough energy for the day ,and i can restart later in the evening. keep the monkeys off your back so they won't take your banannas
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 08:45:39 PM »

taller chimney's go a long ways toward appeasing complaining neighbors
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 10:29:48 AM »

I live not too far from the Mahoning Furnace  Co. I must say they are supported by their neighbors. Especially a town a couple of miles down the road from them.  I think every one has their furnace in their back yard.  The houses are close together as it was a company town at one time.  They all must love the smell of wood burning.  It amazes me that they all seem to get along with each other.  They must be neighbors instead of people who live next door.  Country folk I surmize.

PS Why didn't I buy a Mahoning?  I didn't want to wait five months.
 
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2010, 09:21:50 PM »

I heard thru a reliable source that the DEP regulations push has been derailed for the time being.
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2010, 07:46:03 PM »

Ohio EPA has come up with new proposed rules  I think they got hit with more comments than they could handle during the first comment period.  They have backed off considerably and decided to let the local communities regulate them and only regulate those burning the hazourdous stuff.  Attachments for your reading pleasure.
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 11:57:49 AM »

FYI- PA did pass the "new Regulations" for OWB's. Effective May 31, 2011 only a Phase II can be purchased in PA. Also known as a gasifier.
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Re: Pennsylvania proposes regulations for outside wood furnaces
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 06:28:08 AM »

The old "village" I used to live started this crap.  I saw this coming even at the State level too.  You can have a firplace that smokes ten times more and that is ok, but not an OWB.  I bit the bullet and got a gasifier just to avoid some of this.  I hope they do check mine, it smokes for about 60 - 120 seconds and burns clear until the rest of the burn cycle.  Even got my scepticle neighbor to start considering one, because he rarely smells mine
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