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The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:25:45 AM »

This is part of a letter that I received today...


The new NSPS draft is anticipated to be released by March 2013
A 90-day public comment  period will follow
The new NSPS is expected to be signed into law by Fall 2013
The new qualifying emissions level is expected to start at .15 lb/mm Btu heat output
Incentives are being discussed for models with particulate emissions within .06 lb/mm Btu
 
What does this boil down to? We have about two more years to sell traditional outdoor wood boilers with particulate emissions above .15 lb/mm Btu.  As of today there are only 11 models combined from all manufacturers that burn this clean.  See for yourself at the EPA’s Burn Wise website:
http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/owhhlist.html

What are your thoughts?

Has govt lost it's mind?

Do you fear your govt or does your govt fear you?

I know what I think, and if I said everything I think, well, I wouldn't be able to post on here from the new home lol
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 10:28:08 AM »

For clarification, the NSPS is the EPA's "New Source Performance Standard"
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 02:02:29 PM »

Im gonna make my own propane tank stove and put a Romney sticker on it.  :post:
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 02:28:02 PM »

Im gonna make my own propane tank stove and put a Romney sticker on it.  :post:

Ahh, he may have been different but it's not likely

In my opinion he woulda had the same agenda pushed by the same folks behind the curtains.

I have little faith in our system
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 03:25:25 PM »

Would this prevent someone from either building their own stove completely from scratch?
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 03:34:48 PM »

For clarification, the NSPS is the EPA's "New Source Performance Standard"

sounds like the goverment wants more control because we are heating with wood for free and the oil companies are not making any money, so the gov are not getting any of there bonus cuts....lol
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 03:54:35 PM »

Wow.  Epa should be abolished.
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 04:10:43 PM »

Would this prevent someone from either building their own stove completely from scratch?

No, but the govt knows no bounds anymore, who's to say that after this they don't eventually pass legislation where you can't even burn am appliance that isn't approved?  This is just to stop there production

Where does it stop? 
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 04:12:00 PM »

It is a very sad world anymore.
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 04:18:20 PM »

I don't think this is anything to do with oil and gas companies because owb arent even a blip on the radar.

This is coming from the most miserable people on our planet, there miserable, they sit around and try to think of something to raise hell about in order to feel good about themselves, all for our "environment"

Our govt is just dumb enough to entertain such nuts.

The free market and the laws of nature would cure most problems this country faces, which was basically how the govt was originally set up.  Now the govt is a slave to global banks, mainly the federal reserve.  For those of you who don't know, the federal reserve bank is a private entity, they just tell the govt what to do because they've been granted power they never should have had.  Our country was never intended to play police officer of the world?  But we do.  The list Of things our govt does that it should have never done is endless and will eventually lead to it's demise
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 04:34:32 PM »

Reminds me of a guy who said I have " another one of those obnoxious smoke dragons". I said to him I don't run my stove cool therefore it hardly smokes. He didn't know what to say which shows how people like that never look into these things they just ASSume.
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 04:44:24 PM »

It's like idiots who think if you place a pistol grip on a rifle it makes it an "assault weapon"

Or, the idiots who say no one would actually deer hunt with a caliber as large as a .223, they don't even realize a .223 is a very small caliber

They simply spout stuff based off of propaganda or looks because they actually know nothing about anything
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 05:03:03 PM »

Most of these people fall under the category - just when I thought that some are crazy, they then open their mouths and remove all doubt.  These folks (gov) who want to control everything, think everyone is too stupid to know any better and they are there to save us.  Man, are we ever in trouble.  Roger 
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 05:23:21 PM »

I have to ask, where do we draw the line?  When will people finally revolt?  I don't see a revolt going down without bloodshed but something has to give
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Re: The EPA is starting to pound there drum again
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 05:48:22 PM »

I have to ask, where do we draw the line?  When will people finally revolt?  I don't see a revolt going down without bloodshed but something has to give

I'd say a couple years the people will revolt.
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