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My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« on: May 23, 2017, 09:26:30 AM »

I picked up a WoodEze processor this past February. I bought it from a really nice guy in VT. I looked at it last summer and apparently I was the only one who showed interest in it. We worked out a deal and he delivered it to me. Unfortunately, it didn't work! We spent some time fooling around with it, but we had no luck. I gave the guy $100 for fuel and we worked it out that I'd keep it and once I got it to run, I'd pay him the balance less the amount I had to put into it.
We knew the flow control was troublesome, but I wanted to check the pump as well. My nephew works for a company that builds and services buckets, booms, etc. for trucks so I borrowed a flow meter from him and checked the pump; very poor flow. I ordered a new pump, a flow control valve that Marty suggested (Thanks!), replaced the suction and output lines and it worked!
Marty has a thread here with a lot of great ideas/improvements that I plan to incorporate into my machine as well. The first one will be to hard-mount the pump to the unit to the tongue of the machine. The pump, along with it's large cumbersome hoses are a pain to wrestle on and off the tractor. Details to follow.


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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 07:07:00 PM »


Marty has a thread here with a lot of great ideas/improvements that I plan to incorporate into my machine as well. The first one will be to hard-mount the pump to the unit to the tongue of the machine. The pump, along with it's large cumbersome hoses are a pain to wrestle on and off the tractor. Details to follow.

Yep, the other thing is Iíve bumped the seal a time or two wrestling that pump. Once mounted youíll find it primes ALOT faster since itís not sucking oil thru 6 or 7 feet of hose, will be especially noticeable in cold weather.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 11:46:10 PM »

Website for the rotary bar valve if you should ever need it:

https://www.webtec.com/products/HDCV_180#ProductTab2
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2017, 07:19:36 PM »

If you don't mind me asking, what did that end up costing you?  If you aren't comfortable sharing that's fine too.  I've been looking at one and it seems a little expensive to me.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2017, 07:41:35 PM »

The processor itself? My uncle bought it over 30 years ago, I maintain it and store it for getting to use it whenever I want.

Iíve only seen two for sale, one was around $4000 and the other was $9000, the higher priced one was supposedly completely repainted, and had all new hoses, wires and switches.

Price a new one that has as much capacity as a Wood Eze and youíll jump on a Wood Eze for even 9K. Largest log I ran thru in one piece was a little over 25Ē at the stump and was 57 feet long.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 07:56:43 AM »

I paid $3,000 for mine total and that included a new pump ($500), gage ($13.41), flow control valve ($99.50), fluid, clamps, fittings and filter (another $160). That's what I put into it to get it working after the previous owner delivered it to me. Net payment to him was $2,229.22. I couldn't buy a decent splitter for that.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 12:32:26 PM »

I paid $3,000 for mine total and that included a new pump ($500), gage ($13.41), flow control valve ($99.50), fluid, clamps, fittings and filter (another $160). That's what I put into it to get it working after the previous owner delivered it to me. Net payment to him was $2,229.22. I couldn't buy a decent splitter for that.

This is exactly what I was wondering.  The one I was looking at was 5500, I thought it was fair but maybe a little steep.  I believe if I can talk him down to 3500 I would bring it home.  Thank you
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 05:10:40 PM »

Depends on what kind of shape itís in, I stared pricing out stuff out of curiosity, just the three valve stack is over $2000, good Prince stuff, if you want cheaper try the ROC crap at your own risk. Just all the channel irons will set you back a hefty chunk of change to build the frame.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 05:16:11 PM »

Depends on what kind of shape itís in, I stared pricing out stuff out of curiosity, just the three valve stack is over $2000, good Prince stuff, if you want cheaper try the ROC crap at your own risk. Just all the channel irons will set you back a hefty chunk of change to build the frame.

It's definitely not in tip top shape, but still works.  It's rough tho. Steel is extremely cheap for me, I can get it at cost through work.  Just built myself a quarter inch square stock tailgate with 1/4" expanded metal that weighs 200 pounds for my tractor trailer with a 7 foot 5/8" hinge for 80 bucks in material.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2017, 05:26:21 PM »

Depends on what kind of shape itís in, I stared pricing out stuff out of curiosity, just the three valve stack is over $2000, good Prince stuff, if you want cheaper try the ROC crap at your own risk. Just all the channel irons will set you back a hefty chunk of change to build the frame.

It's definitely not in tip top shape, but still works.  It's rough tho. Steel is extremely cheap for me, I can get it at cost through work.  Just built myself a quarter inch square stock tailgate with 1/4" expanded metal that weighs 200 pounds for my tractor trailer with a 7 foot 5/8" hinge for 80 bucks in material.

Probably sat outside a lot, Iím done it gets greased, blown off, and parked in the barn.

Check the coils on the stack as well, take the outer nut off and see if you can pull the coil off, if not soak it if you buy it. Occasionally you have to take the stack apart to get a bit of o-ring or something that might hang a spool up, if you canít get the coil off your kinda SOL, you wonít find a replacement and if your luck is a hell of a lot better than mine and find one, the stupid coil costs as much as the assembly, ask me how I know.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2017, 05:30:42 PM »

I stand corrected, a new OC three section 12V valve stack with one section for hydraulic motors and 2 sections for DA cylinders from Prince will set you back $1150.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/shop.axd/Cart
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2017, 07:55:20 AM »

Website for the rotary bar valve if you should ever need it:

https://www.webtec.com/products/HDCV_180#ProductTab2
Marty - Does your rotary valve have detents in it? Mine just kind of swivels around with not much resistance and with the electrical control buttons on it in a box it's kind of easy to move inadvertently.
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2017, 08:16:45 AM »

I completed my PTO pump mount this weekend and made a bracket for my flow control valve. Just need to get some new hoses made and plumbed in!:


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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2017, 04:27:56 PM »

That's a beautiful job on the pump mount. 👍👍👍
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Re: My WoodEze processor rebuild/improvements
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2017, 08:39:23 PM »

I like your bearing mounts better than mine, I used what was under the welding bench, wasnít about to cut up a 10 or 20 foot chunk considering what they get for steel anymore.

Anyways, mine didnít have any detents but did have a spring return to center, that was located under the ďcapĒ and on top of the valve body, had a split pin in the cap then another split pin in the body, when centered the split pins lined up and it had a triple coil spring under it with a a short leg on each end about a half inch long bent 90 degrees, when assemble one leg was on each side of the split pins. I searched the internet high and low and could never find just the spring, could get a rebuild ďkitĒ for around $100, told em to keep it.

This is what I use for a spring return to center:


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