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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Hardy H2 vs. H4
« on: January 30, 2012, 06:47:17 PM »
Would probly only run it in the winter for now till the kids get a little older and i have to take a cold shower for the first time, it will be 24/7 burning. The shop would probly be set on 50-55 till i need to work on somthing. house would probly be 70-72. I just dont know much about the other brands i guess always been refered to hardy around here. 20 + years on the same one in the family which is what sells me i guess, i dont know what other brands to look at only other's close to me are heatmor,acme and wood master i think. Maybe chim in would steer me at other's. i like the stainless ones but with the epa fixing to crack down on OWB's who is going to stay in buisness and who isnt.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Hardy H2 vs. H4
« on: January 29, 2012, 09:09:37 PM »
I was told by my dealer that the h4 is what i needed for my sq ft. 3760. 32x80 double wide and 30x40 shop. Everyone i have talked to says a H2 would be fine. Dealer says it would be overworking and burning a lot of wood and probly not last as long. What i need is people from this site's knowledge on my delima. I am not stuck on the Hardy brand but they are close to home and have a family member who has run one for 20 + years. And want ease of operation, simplicity of repair, not having to burn 10 cord of wood in winter and not spending over 7-8k. Open to any idea's and suggestions. Thanks to all.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Anyone have all electric and OWB?
« on: January 29, 2012, 09:02:06 PM »
I too am in the same boat as you, I am ALL electric and it drive me nuts driving around seeing these Hardy's chugging smoke and people walking around in t-shirts and shorts in their house. I keep mine( 2006 Double wide 32x80) at 67-68. Electric bill ranges from 250-375 depending on the weather here in southern MO. I have my wife talked into one but i can't get her to accept the price to well. But she is very understanding considering she wants it warmer and the savings on the electric bill . I also have a 30x40 shop and 3 children who love to take long showers.I'm thinking i could save about 1/3 of my electric bill or so by what i have read on this site and have heard from owners of OWB face to face. Now the problem lies in which furnace is going to offer me the most bang for my buck and last me the longest as we are only in our mid 20's. Thats getting off topic and i need to research that more on here. What i'm trying to say is i dont think you'll be sorry with getting a OWB even if it does take 5 to 6 years to pay for it, the next 10-15+ years will be free and clear, and also nice and toasty.
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Hardy / Re: h4 price
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:38:31 PM »
A local dealer closer to me said 6500 for the h4 is what he's suppose to sell them for. Also said he heard through the grape vine that in the next 2-3 years with all the epa changes and what not the h2 will be around 12 grand. He told me i should buy within the next 2 years.
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Hardy / Re: h4 price
« on: January 23, 2012, 06:33:34 PM »
5100 seems like a pretty good deal considering i was quoted 6857.54 with tax on a discounted 2011 h4 but he said it had the small 6 grate which added 20,000 btu. Said he'd been selling them for 20+ years
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Hardy / Re: My New and improved H2
« on: January 23, 2012, 06:29:52 PM »
I understand now, i bet it loves wood. Thats a long pull on 3/4. Guess if we all knew now what we didnt know then life would be a lot easier wouldnt it. Thats why i am reading almost every post on the owb's to learn from other people so i can get a good setup that will hopefully last me a long time, maybe it will pay off
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Acme Furnace Company / Re: NEW STOVE
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:15:55 PM »
This is their warranty that i had to google to find it wasnt on their web page, maybe i just couldnt find it. To me a good warranty would either make or break the deal for me. What do you guys think of their's?
LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY
Year 100% On-Site Warranty!
Plus, a Lifetime and 40 Year Warranty on roof and siding!
We have a 5 Year On-Site warranty against leaks on the furnace – NOT prorated.
We also have a 20 Year warranty against leaks on the furnace – Parts and Labor.
Electrical components such as the fan, thermostat and pump and the door and grates have a
one-year manufacturer’s warranty.
We don’t have ship the furnace back to us, like some companies demand. Instead, we send a
professional repairman to perform on-site repairs.
a) Years 6 – 20 on the life of your furnace are prorated as follows:
b) Year 6 - 90%
c) Year 7 - 80%
We will give you the percentage discount
d) Year 8 - 70%
on the repair or off a replacement
boiler.
e) Year 9 - 60%
The furnace will be repaired
or replaced,
f) Year 10 - 50%
whichever is less
expensive.
g) Year 11 - 40%
Shipping not
included.
h) Year 12 - 14 - 30%
No cash or
surrender value.
i) Year 15 - 20 - 20%
j) Year 21 to forever - 10%
The cost of the service call is not covered after 5 years.
The life of your furnace depends upon proper maintenance. With proper maintenance, your
furnace can give you 25 – 30 plus years of dependable service.
You MUST test your water annually and retain results for possible review by ACME Furnace
Company (upon request) to support warranty claims, in some instances.
Water samples must be submitted to a professional water testing lab. If there is not a water
testing lab near your home, a “Water Sample Analysis Kit” can be purchased for your
convenience. Recommended source:
LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY
Year 100% On-Site Warranty!
Plus, a Lifetime and 40 Year Warranty on roof and siding!
We have a 5 Year On-Site warranty against leaks on the furnace – NOT prorated.
We also have a 20 Year warranty against leaks on the furnace – Parts and Labor.
Electrical components such as the fan, thermostat and pump and the door and grates have a
one-year manufacturer’s warranty.
We don’t have ship the furnace back to us, like some companies demand. Instead, we send a
professional repairman to perform on-site repairs.
a) Years 6 – 20 on the life of your furnace are prorated as follows:
b) Year 6 - 90%
c) Year 7 - 80%
We will give you the percentage discount
d) Year 8 - 70%
on the repair or off a replacement
boiler.
e) Year 9 - 60%
The furnace will be repaired
or replaced,
f) Year 10 - 50%
whichever is less
expensive.
g) Year 11 - 40%
Shipping not
included.
h) Year 12 - 14 - 30%
No cash or
surrender value.
i) Year 15 - 20 - 20%
j) Year 21 to forever - 10%
The cost of the service call is not covered after 5 years.
The life of your furnace depends upon proper maintenance. With proper maintenance, your
furnace can give you 25 – 30 plus years of dependable service.
You MUST test your water annually and retain results for possible review by ACME Furnace
Company (upon request) to support warranty claims, in some instances.
Water samples must be submitted to a professional water testing lab. If there is not a water
testing lab near your home, a “Water Sample Analysis Kit” can be purchased for your
convenience. Recommended source:
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Hardy / Re: My New and improved H2
« on: January 23, 2012, 04:40:20 PM »
Explain over working it for us if you would, my father in law is on his 4th season with his, heating 1600 sq ft shop, 1000 sq ft house and his hot water. Man does he go through the wood. Seems like everytime i call him he's cutting wood to fill the stock pile. Have seen snow sit on top of his hardy in the winter and only melt around the stack and the other pipe. Maybe he's feeding it to much green wood? He was curious to see what you had done with yours and how it has helped.
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Acme Furnace Company / Re: NEW STOVE
« on: January 23, 2012, 03:43:22 PM »
Guy wanted 6500 for the H4. Seems steep for "discounted". Glad to hear you like the acme so far. I am just leary about new companys, like what if they only stay around for a couple of years? Guess since there steel you could always repair them your self.
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Acme Furnace Company / Re: NEW STOVE
« on: January 23, 2012, 04:34:46 AM »
Thats what i read somewhere on another post. I have one dealer thats about 100 miles that has some left over h4's going to call him today and see what he can come up with. I've been reading on this site for almost a year now then i finally signed up to be a member, its a great site full of info for everybody. Thanks
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Acme Furnace Company / Re: NEW STOVE
« on: January 22, 2012, 08:19:50 PM »
Spoke with you awhile back about your new furnace, still interested in one but looked at one yesterday and they look real "homemade" like. The chimney was only welded on the top side, grates looked like they wouldnt last all that long. Its just hard to buy somthing that expensive when there is no input on them, and with 4 family member's pushing me to get a hardy like they have. I want to be the black sheep but i still leary. My uncle's father in law has had the same hardy for 24 years with only replacing the components in the back and the grates twice. I hate making big decisions. Anyhow, how is your acme working for you?