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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Legend Rope Gasket

« on: November 20, 2014, 05:40:41 AM »

I have a Legend Boiler, going on my second year, and I think I need to replace my gasket.  It always has either red hot coals, or an active flame when I open the door even when the temp is well above my shutoff, so it seems it has to be leaking air.  The top of my rope gasket is still pliable, but the bottom is rock hard, is there a way to restore that?  Or should I just replace it?  Also wondering if anyone knows what size rope the Legend uses, or how to measure it, I am guessing a gasket shrinks a bit after its installed and in service?  Thanks

Mike

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Legend / Re: Warped plate on inside of door

« on: November 14, 2014, 09:14:01 AM »

Mine is warped as well, and see no issues.  And mine is on its second season as well.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Coals / ash / charcoal in firebox

« on: November 27, 2013, 07:09:04 AM »

I didn't load the stove as heavy as last night and looks like the big chunks have burned down quite a bit.  The default setting on the aquastat was 180 high to 170 low, does lowering it to 165 make a difference?  After today I'll be off for the holidays, and I plan to let it burn more between filling since I will be there to keep eye on it.  I just been afraid to go light on the wood being gone at work all day, with my wife and our 1yr son at home, I have the electric furnace breaker shut off right now, just have the fan running for the owb.  Still need to call Honeywell and talk to them about the config on my tstat.  The wet / green wood has been burning really good, think I just been putting to much in for no colder then its been, and not letting it burn down very well. 

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Inside Insulation

« on: November 27, 2013, 07:04:10 AM »

With the meat thermometers, where do you locate the sensor at?  I've read of putting a light wired to the fan blower, which I think I will end up doing.  I'm going to get a security light put on a 4x4 by the stove as well just to light up the area. 

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Coals / ash / charcoal in firebox

« on: November 26, 2013, 04:20:11 PM »

So maybe not fill it as full to make it thru night till I get it burned down?  Hopefully I'll get it figured out over the holiday time off from work.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Coals / ash / charcoal in firebox

« on: November 26, 2013, 04:02:20 PM »

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oorqakgfj0x5w3c/2013-11-26%2017.18.57.jpg

Seems the IMG tags don't like Dropbox links

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Coals / ash / charcoal in firebox

« on: November 26, 2013, 03:40:01 PM »

Ok, still in my first week of fire in my new Legend 6180, and have question regarding coals and ash.  I am burning a mix of wood, mostly green tops that loggers fell few months ago.  I have been filling the box to the gill at night, then about 75% at 7am before work, then when I get home at 4pm I usually shift coals and what's not burnt until 8 or 9 when I fill it up again for night.  My question is I now have about 12 inches or so of this mixture in the bottom and I'm not sure at what point I need to shovel it out.  I have never had a stove that didn't have a lower ash tray.  A lot of the stuff is 1 to 4 inch black charred stuff.  When the blower is on, coals make them glow good so I'm thinking they can burn more.  As I shovel it around I do see some gray light ash, but there's not much that I see yet.  Am I filling to full and not letting it burn down enough between fills?  I'm just scared to not fill it and have it go out.  I tried to take a few pics to show what is there, hope they work out.  I will have to post them from PC I think though.  Thanks

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Inside Insulation

« on: November 26, 2013, 02:53:44 PM »

Yea we have those headlamps at work, very handy, but having a light out there would be nice as well.  The lamps are so much nicer now that they are led though.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Inside Insulation

« on: November 26, 2013, 08:54:19 AM »

Thanks all, guess its off to pick up some 3/4 insulation.  I really need a security light out there as well, might have to find an old one from work for that, light on my stove can only be on when the blower is switched off, nice concept but lacks in functionality, have to take a flashlight so I don't break my neck getting out there to turn the light on!

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Inside Insulation

« on: November 26, 2013, 05:41:46 AM »

I just fired my OWB up this past Saturday night, and have been enjoying the heat ever since.  But with the rush to get it up and going, I now have some finish work to do to finish the self install.  Pump and fan are hooked up via extension cord, so need to get the perm electric hooked up, wires ran thru conduit just need to finish plumbing them up.  But my main question is the inside insulation, do you guys insulate where you come into the house?  I have to insulate the lines coming up out of the ground and into my stove, that's a definite, but what about where it comes thru the wall in the basement then travels up to my water heater and to my heat exchanger?   It's doing great right now, but would I save some heat / wood if I wrap some insulation around the lines where possible?  I already have them secured to the floor joists in places, and have lots of 90's to go around, but would it be worth insulating them is my question.  Feedback?

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Electronics / Re: New OWB but lost on thermostat

« on: November 20, 2013, 12:48:44 PM »

Thanks so much!  Yea I hadn't thought so much on mounting yet, I'm going to try to wire it up hanging out of the wall tonight see if I can get the fan blower to kick on before I mount it.  Good idea going above it though, I will have to see where the stud is in relation to my current one.  Do you have your pump running 24/7 on your Legend?  I really don't have much of an option as I only ran electric out to the stove, which will power the porchlight, pump and blower fan on the door which is attached to the tank thermostat.

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Electronics / Re: New OWB but lost on thermostat

« on: November 20, 2013, 12:37:59 PM »

I have a Legend and I tied another thermostat to the one I had just to turn the fan on in the existing furnace.  It works great and my pump runs 24/7. No relay needed. I love my Legend!!

jerkash: did you wire the 2nd thermostat in the way i described from another topic?  that is all I am trying to do, but I know nothing at all about thermostats and the wiring.  I almost have my piping finished up and will be ready to fire the stove soon. 

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Electronics / Re: New OWB but lost on thermostat

« on: November 20, 2013, 12:26:41 PM »

Yes, fan only.  After some digging, I found this post http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=2146.0 , would the reply on that post work?

Run 2 jumpers from current thermostat, from R on current, to R on new, and from Green to W on new?  Would that accomplish what I need, without having to add relay or transformer?

Just install a separate cheap digital stat right beside the one you have now.  Takes about 20 minutes, just run a jumper wire from the r post on the one you have now to the new ones r, and from the green post on the old one to the w post on the new one and you've got it.....   

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Electronics / Re: New OWB but lost on thermostat

« on: November 20, 2013, 09:49:07 AM »

Thats what I was thinking as well on the pump, just run it thru the winter and shut it off manually.  It has a 500gal tank on the boiler, which I will also be using for hot water in the house as well, so what little electric the pump will use, and extra wood shouldn't be much of an issue.

But regarding the fan control, with my current furnace and thermostat, I have the option to turn the fan on only with the thermostat, what is the purpose of the extra relay and transformer?  Could I not use the same wires on the existing thermostat to connect a 2nd thermostat to, but only connect it to the fan control wires?  I am sorry, I understand the concept, but have never done much with the furnace / thermostat except replace the old analog with the new programmable. 

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Electronics / New OWB but lost on thermostat

« on: November 20, 2013, 09:18:11 AM »

Hello all, I have been looking thru this wonderful site, trying to find help on my particular situation.  I am in the process of installing an OWB, its a Legend brand.  Has a temp controlled fan blower on the stove box set to 180deg, and I'm planning on wiring the pump up to run thru the winter non stop.  I have the heat exchanger I am working on installing just above my furnace / ac coils.  The furnace is about 3 years old, all electric heat with ac.  I currently have a cheap programmable thermostat from Lowes running the original furnace.  From what I understand, I can have a 2nd thermostat set to say 70deg, at which point would kick just the fan on my electric furnace on and blow the heat from the water exchanger, then have my current thermostat set to say 65, and if temp drops to that, then the backup electric heat would kick on as well?  So to do that, can I tap into the wires on the back of my existing thermostat, or do I need to run new wires back to the furnace, and then how do I know which wires to connect to the 2nd thermostat, just for the fan?  I have read there are two stage thermostats that could combine this into 1 unit, is it worth the money to buy one?  I have bought a cheap analog thermostat to get this up and running for now, may change it out later, but just need heat for now.  Thanks

Side note, a local heat / air guy said he usually puts a relay in to control the water pump as well, but it wont hurt to have it just on a breaker and control it manually will it?