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[coolidge]

Does seem to point toward ground losss. Have you noticed any spots on the ground where the snow melts or the ground doesn't freeze?

Haven't seen any, but I am going to go out when it gets dark to check things out.

[coolidge]

Some temp readings from Controly Web thingy from last Sunday.

Can't go by these readings, I looked at the day, last Sunday and the shop was calling for heat all day.
This is one from today with nothing calling for heat.

Just moving my T stat has made a HUGE difference today anyway.

[hondaracer2oo4]

Is that after swapping the supply and return probes on the shop lines?

[hondaracer2oo4]

It looks like I had misread one of the screen shots. I thought I read one of them said a delta t of 4 but now I don’t see that so I must have misread.

[mlappin]

Some temp readings from Controly Web thingy from last Sunday.

Can't go by these readings, I looked at the day, last Sunday and the shop was calling for heat all day.
This is one from today with nothing calling for heat.

Just moving my T stat has made a HUGE difference today anyway.

I’m glad your heading this thing off, but with radiant I can’t see why thermostat placement could make that big a deal, if it was in a cold spot in the building then the rest should feel too warm.

[coolidge]

I haven't swapped any probes yet, kids absolutely NEED wifi extender, thus I can't access controlyweb.

I also put my old digital T stat along with 2 regular thermometers in same area old t stat was, of course all three read differently, but digital was 5 degrees colder than new one.

I also did a very small amount of digging( stuffed belly) and took some Flir temps.
First is Logstor going up through to boiler.
Second third fourth, are temp reading through my hole in closed cell foam.
Last three are the little area I dug up.

[hondaracer2oo4]

I dont know how else we can isolate this issue without historical graphing of the heat loads taking heat from the boiler and the temperature losses while the water is circulating around the loop.

I also assume your g200 is gassing correct? How long are the cycle times? We may have
Covered that once before. This has been going for so long I can't remember.

[coolidge]

I am just throwing wood in, and get more when needed.
I will burn through what wood I have, then I am done with it.

[hondaracer2oo4]

Done with what? The g200? You said that your wood usage spiked when using your pm250. So why would your wood use spike with the pm250 and continue to be high with the g200 but the g200 is the issue?

If the g200 is gassing then that's not the issue. If it is not
Gassing then that is a problem.

[coolidge]

Done with wood.

[hondaracer2oo4]

I don't blame you with that much wood use. What alternative are you going to?

[coolidge]

Oil for the house and probably propane for shop, not shure yet.

[mlappin]

really wish I was closer to you coolidge, the heat is going somewhere. It’s getting worse as well. I might be jaded so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but the first year you said you burnt like 7 or 8 cord, then up to 12 or 14 wit the P&M 250 then up again with the G200, can’t be the G200’s fault as it jumped from the first to second year then again the third whence my comment about it getting worse. It’s aggravating to no end that you can’t find the loss.

[hondaracer2oo4]

I Agree. I am probably less than two hours away but between having a 1 year old and my wife and I both working full and doing no day care it is hard to find any free time to pay a visit.

[coolidge]

There is no explanation. I would think with using the controlyweb on the lines would tell you if there is ground loss.