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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: May 16th and still have a fire
« on: May 17, 2008, 08:44:41 PM »
ontario canada...still firing once a day for a little "boost" in the morning and domestic hot water...2 years ago i never shut down until the 10th of June
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Central Boiler / Re: $12,300!
« on: May 13, 2008, 08:07:49 PM »
i agree the 25 year warranty should cost nothing...it is worth nothing.....limited warranty..covering what.....manufacturing defects...what the hell is that? a bubble in the paint?
your stove pops a hole...try and convince the dealer that is a manufacturing error.... you might get a new blower if that goes (pro rated)
i know a guy who got a hole in his stove in 3 years...his warranty after bitching for a week....the dealer gave him a patch for free (a piece of steel) and told him to get it welded on at his own expence
i think most warranties are worded by lawyers to sound good but mean nothing
another guy i know has had his stove for 10 years...his blower rotted off the stove (it does sit outside)..he repaired it his self because warranty on the blower is only one year...(although the blower still worked it just fell off the stove)
both these problems were on two different companies stoves...both warranties did nothing (although i tend to agree..a blower after ten years would owe me nothing)
i know no one whom has
had a good experience with warranty..has anyone ?
your stove pops a hole...try and convince the dealer that is a manufacturing error.... you might get a new blower if that goes (pro rated)
i know a guy who got a hole in his stove in 3 years...his warranty after bitching for a week....the dealer gave him a patch for free (a piece of steel) and told him to get it welded on at his own expence
i think most warranties are worded by lawyers to sound good but mean nothing
another guy i know has had his stove for 10 years...his blower rotted off the stove (it does sit outside)..he repaired it his self because warranty on the blower is only one year...(although the blower still worked it just fell off the stove)
both these problems were on two different companies stoves...both warranties did nothing (although i tend to agree..a blower after ten years would owe me nothing)
i know no one whom has
had a good experience with warranty..has anyone ?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: ???
« on: May 12, 2008, 08:15:20 PM »
probably but not me..lol
there are some whom i think get tired of cutting wood or those that dont like standing out in the cold to put wood in..i put my stove in a wood shed...nice and warm and out of the weather when i have to stoke it up..my wife and two sons go to the bush and we work as a team and use this time for family "bonding"..actually is fun..even after 7 winters of it
the one thing we make sure of..we are always at least one year ahead with our wood supply..that way we can shoose what days to cut wood..we never have to go in bad weather or when one of us has "other plans"..we go on days that suit us, this keeps it fun
there are some whom i think get tired of cutting wood or those that dont like standing out in the cold to put wood in..i put my stove in a wood shed...nice and warm and out of the weather when i have to stoke it up..my wife and two sons go to the bush and we work as a team and use this time for family "bonding"..actually is fun..even after 7 winters of it
the one thing we make sure of..we are always at least one year ahead with our wood supply..that way we can shoose what days to cut wood..we never have to go in bad weather or when one of us has "other plans"..we go on days that suit us, this keeps it fun
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: shark bite fittings
« on: April 30, 2008, 08:43:25 PM »
i have not used them but everything i find on the net says for pex they will work fine
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: What did you use?
« on: April 01, 2008, 06:15:56 PM »
7 years ago i used the same as you..that was about all the choice you had...my stove is 250 from the house and i think i lose about 7 degrees in a 500 foot round trip counting what heat loss there is in the bare copper pipes in the house and what leaks off the uninsulated domestic water heat exchanger
i will be building another stove for my newly aquired "other property" maybe this year..i am thinking of the newer stuff that is foam over the pipes inside a plastic tile..but i think i will also run it down another unperferated tile....i am thinking heat loss to dead air around the heat pipes will be less that heat loss to moist dirt around them?
my next furnace will be able to be much closer to the building ..i am sure less than 100 feet, so the expense won't be much more for another tile and the option of pulling it out and replacing it without digging is there also (likely never need too though)
here is one type of what i am talking about..there are many more i am sure but this will give you an idea of what i am talking about
http://www.urecon.com/english/furnaces.html
i will be building another stove for my newly aquired "other property" maybe this year..i am thinking of the newer stuff that is foam over the pipes inside a plastic tile..but i think i will also run it down another unperferated tile....i am thinking heat loss to dead air around the heat pipes will be less that heat loss to moist dirt around them?
my next furnace will be able to be much closer to the building ..i am sure less than 100 feet, so the expense won't be much more for another tile and the option of pulling it out and replacing it without digging is there also (likely never need too though)
here is one type of what i am talking about..there are many more i am sure but this will give you an idea of what i am talking about
http://www.urecon.com/english/furnaces.html
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Home Made / Re: convert
« on: March 28, 2008, 05:36:51 PM »very cool, did you build it?yes double..i built it...i am planning on another one in a year when i retire...i have aquired another property and i want to build one with a (i have a tank allready) 1200 gallon tank..i am hoping to fire it one time a day at most and have it keep the things near 60 when i am there and above freezing while i am away .....im not much on making refractry so i am thinking of a 36 inch pipe inside a 42 inch pipe filled with fire brick between them...i hope to achieve very high temps burning this way....then have the heat move out the chimey into a second barrel that will have tubes (big enough i can brush them) for the heat to go through and have them surrounded by water...then circulate the water through my 1200 gallon tank untill the set temp is achieved
you think this may work/..i am looking for all kinds of input..then i can have way more ideas to contemplate on
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Home Made / Re: convert
« on: March 27, 2008, 06:20:11 PM »
here is mine..in my 7th year..newer model coming in 2010 (when i retire)
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Fire Wood / Re: The Best Wood
« on: March 27, 2008, 06:09:14 PM »Anyone have any ideas of which kind of wood is the best to burn, I have been burning a lot of sycamore and it does not do to bad. I also have used oak, locust. What wood last the longest.
a pound of wood has about 8600 BTU init...so if you have equally dry wood..the heavier wood (denser) will have more BTU in it and last longer
also if you burn wet wood (unseasoned) it will take about 1000 BTU to evaperate each pound of water that is in the wood...so you can see it is very important to burn only seasoned wood
i guess (only my interpritation) that means if you have a 100 pounds of dry oak (20 percent or less moisture)
100 pounds of wood produces 860,000 BTU..less 20,000 to evaperate the moisture..leaves you 840,000 BTU of heat
100 pounds of green wood (60 percent moisture) same amount of BTU 860,000 less 60,000...leaves you 800,000
according to the wood charts i have seen (they must take into account the moisture of 20 percent ..a cord of dry oak weighs about 4000 pounds and produces 25.7 million BTUs
so wet would be another 40 percent less BTU's per cord...about 10 million ..so wet wood would lessen your available heat to about 15 million from 25 million
if my math is right..burn dry wood
try the link for a firewood chart
http://mb-soft.com/juca/print/firewood.html
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Site Suggestions / Re: Manufacturer List
« on: March 26, 2008, 07:44:02 PM »
list may be a good thing..we could see votes for and against by real owners
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Fire Wood / Re: keeping it in the round
« on: March 26, 2008, 06:13:07 PM »
i cut wood each winter..and i like to stay ahead..i store my wood inside..dont split any and am always 2 winters ahead..you will find if you get wood seasoned this long...you will get very little smoke and very fine ashes