Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Username: Password:

Author Topic: Fire brick or no fire brick  (Read 4496 times)

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Fire brick or no fire brick
« on: February 21, 2015, 09:20:06 AM »
Got a ? Still looking at building a stove just checking to see what you thought about the fire box? Go with fire brick or no fire brick?
Logged

mag1266

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 31
  • OWF Brand: heatmor
  • OWF Model: 200
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2015, 10:03:12 AM »
Brick is good
Logged

juddspaintballs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 640
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2015, 10:41:27 AM »
Fire brick is really good.  It holds heat, protects your firebox, is easily replaced, and allows you to burn coal if you wanted. 
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2015, 10:59:45 AM »
Hey thanks I was just going to put it on half the fire box where most of the burning is going on thanks again!
Logged

tinfoilhat2020

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 634
  • OWF Brand: POS
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2015, 11:04:03 AM »
I am thinking of Adding Firebrick to the bottom and partial sides of my traditional boiler as well.
Logged

juddspaintballs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 640
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2015, 05:20:30 PM »
I have firebrick sidewalls at the bottom, and a sand bottom where my shaker grates are not.  I'm thinking of adding more firebrick so that the bottom of the firebox slopes as a V into the shaker grates.  That'll make cleaning out the firebox easier, keep the coals centered over the airflow, and allow the ashes to all fall into the ash auger tube instead of rest on the floor of the firebox.  It'll also make burning coal easier.
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2015, 09:33:13 AM »
That sounds like the way mine is going to be on the inside it's not going to be a round fire box but in goes down at a slop if that makes sense!
Logged

hotterburn4u

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5
  • OWF Brand: Portage & Main Outdoor Water Furnace
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2015, 07:31:12 PM »
Hello everyone
I wanted to get on here to thank all the posters for some time .Well I finally have found the time and a post related to something I am very passionate about ..fire brick and its benefits .I have to admit that I didn't fully understand all the benefits of refractory till I was wowed by the first down Draft I saw burning ,the flame was incredible. I later remembered  a fellow who ran a small foundry who specialized in making bronze statues anyway I had sold him a regular water  totally surrounding the fire  pot type of hydronic furnace. He fit the bottom half of the fire pot with refractory what a difference in the amount of smoke and creosote . Good combustion requires three things one being heat . I know you will be pleased with the many benefits already mentioned by others on your  post .Put in as much as you can. It will benefit updraft or downdraft hydronic heaters or any fire even a camp fire.
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 06:50:23 AM »
Hey thanks that sounds great I'm sold on putting fire brick in!
Logged

userdk

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 357
  • OWF Brand: Heatmaster SS
  • OWF Model: G 400
    • View Profile
    • Outdoor Wood Furnaces - Pineview Woodstoves
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2015, 06:25:18 PM »
There's a lot of debate as to firebrick vs. no firebrick. If you use fire brick, look at how P and M did it. Heatmaster hasn't had any corrosion problem using .409 without firebrick. I have no idea what it would take to weld .409 though.
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2015, 10:23:20 AM »
To weld 409 isn't bad you can weld it with a stick welder with the right rods or a mig I would use a mig! I'm not crazy about the way stainless expand and contract there is good and bad in all of it! :)
Logged

userdk

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 357
  • OWF Brand: Heatmaster SS
  • OWF Model: G 400
    • View Profile
    • Outdoor Wood Furnaces - Pineview Woodstoves
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2015, 12:42:16 PM »
What rod would you use? My brother wants to use .409 on his sap boiler.
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM »
I would use a 309 use a lot of them to weld stainless!
Logged

buildingastove

  • Training Wheels
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 19
  • OWF Brand: Taylor
  • OWF Model: T750
    • View Profile
Re: Fire brick or no fire brick
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2015, 08:59:53 AM »
Sorry that is 308 hit the 9 sorry!
Logged