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HeatMaster / Re: G200 water flow
« on: November 12, 2018, 09:11:44 PM »
Thanks E Yoder. I have done digital temp checks on the supply lines at the back of the boiler and where they enter each of my buildings to check on the temp loss of the lines. I found the temps at the back of the boiler were right at the temp on the units control and only had 1 to 2 degree drop in my lines. About 1 degree for the house (95 ft.) line and 1.5 degrees on my shed (150 plus ft.) which I thought was pretty good.
Does anyone have an idea what the exhaust flue gas temps usually run?
Does anyone have an idea what the exhaust flue gas temps usually run?
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HeatMaster / Re: G200 water flow
« on: November 11, 2018, 09:35:31 PM »
Has anyone taken temps of the flue gas exiting the stack while running full out? I wonder what if any affect reduced gpm flow would have on stack temps and if this would correlate to running efficiency?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Furnace failure - how to keep the loop from freezing
« on: November 10, 2018, 09:45:46 PM »
What type of thermostatic valve is it? Is it actually operated by water temp like a hydraulic valve or is it electrically operated by a sensor? If the first then you would probably have to remove it and install piping in it's place. If the latter you should be able to do a work around with an alternative power source.
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HeatMaster / Re: G200 water flow
« on: November 10, 2018, 09:29:26 PM »
Yes, the factory recommends 16 gpm so I inquired further about less than the recommended total flow. I was told if you are using both sets of supplies/returns and getting proper temps from the supply that there shouldn't be a problem with lower than 16 gpm total flow. Last year I did not have to add any water during the heating season so I am definitely not boiling off the water.
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HeatMaster / G200 water flow
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:46:12 PM »
Just wondering what you G200 owners/dealers are seeing for total GPM flow at your units when running 2 loops? Max vs. required vs. minimum flow for good operation?
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HeatMaster / Re: I think my g-200 has brain damage
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:37:00 PM »
You said the pump was dead also? Any chance you received a lightning strike, either direct or nearby over the off season? I always disconnect all cords at the stove and flip the breaker off also during the off season.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Side arm
« on: November 08, 2018, 10:12:44 PM »
Is your water heater isolated with dielectric unions for both water lines? I have seen leaks caused by corrosion from electrolysis but it doesn't happen a lot.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: question on purging when refilling boiler
« on: October 24, 2018, 10:50:38 PM »
Flushing and filling yearly isn't needed but testing your water every year is a must. Also, you may need to add water during the heating season depending on your unit. When your unit is running, always maintain the recommended water level regardless of the time of year, not just adding water in spring only.
That being said, many people do add additional water at the end of heating season to the top of the fill spout so there is no air in the unit all summer long. If you do this, run your pumps long enough after adding water to mix the new water with the treated water then send in your sample for testing. You will have to drain off some in the fall when you start up or it will over flow out the fill spout as it heats up.
That being said, many people do add additional water at the end of heating season to the top of the fill spout so there is no air in the unit all summer long. If you do this, run your pumps long enough after adding water to mix the new water with the treated water then send in your sample for testing. You will have to drain off some in the fall when you start up or it will over flow out the fill spout as it heats up.
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HeatMaster / CB EDGE compared to HEATMASTER
« on: August 24, 2018, 12:30:43 AM »
Hi guys, maybe I should be posting this on CB's forum also but in think Roger monitors Heatmaster too.
A buddy of mine is going to get a new OWB and he is comparing the CB Edge 550 like you just got Roger to the Heatmaster G200 and GS200. He is asking me about them because I have the G200 now going on my 3rd season. Does anyone have experience comparing the 2 brands? I am not sure how long the CB Edge models have been out. Is this also a 409 stainless like Heatmaster? His numbers show the Heatmaster more expensive even for the GS200. Are they comparably sized units?
Any info I can pass along would be helpful. I know he likes the Heatmaster dealer I recommended better but I don't know much about the CB unit.
Thanks
A buddy of mine is going to get a new OWB and he is comparing the CB Edge 550 like you just got Roger to the Heatmaster G200 and GS200. He is asking me about them because I have the G200 now going on my 3rd season. Does anyone have experience comparing the 2 brands? I am not sure how long the CB Edge models have been out. Is this also a 409 stainless like Heatmaster? His numbers show the Heatmaster more expensive even for the GS200. Are they comparably sized units?
Any info I can pass along would be helpful. I know he likes the Heatmaster dealer I recommended better but I don't know much about the CB unit.
Thanks
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HeatMaster / Re: 2018 Heatmaster Show Schedule
« on: July 31, 2018, 09:54:54 PM »
Mlappin not sure what your calling a heat pump? If it is a conventional above ground unit with a reversing valve then yes, it is basically a 3 season system in colder climates. Geothermal on the other hand, properly sized and installed will work fine in any region.
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Plumbing / Re: Expansion tank
« on: July 12, 2018, 09:26:26 PM »
you have a pressurized/sealed system with 400 gallons in it?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Geothermal coupled with Outdoor Wood Furnace--Good Idea or Bad?
« on: July 12, 2018, 09:24:03 PM »
As I mentioned I have 9 tons total with 2 systems. I had 5400 ft. (600 ft per ton x 9) of pipe installed laid out in a opening 100 ft x 300 ft x 8 ft deep. My bill came to $40,000 but received 30% back in Federal tax credits to bring it down to $28,000. Not sure where the tax credits are at right now but reputable dealers will know. The estimated pay back for my system was 8.5 years at the prices LP was at when I put it in. Not sure about individual state incentives for geothermal.
One of the newer methods of installing loop fields is directional boring much like utilities use but it is still pricy. A friend is installing one of these right now, I think he has a 5 ton system costing him about $30k. If you have a pond or open water nearby that doesn't freeze solid, that would be the most efficient heat transfer method.
One of the newer methods of installing loop fields is directional boring much like utilities use but it is still pricy. A friend is installing one of these right now, I think he has a 5 ton system costing him about $30k. If you have a pond or open water nearby that doesn't freeze solid, that would be the most efficient heat transfer method.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Geothermal coupled with Outdoor Wood Furnace--Good Idea or Bad?
« on: July 06, 2018, 11:03:08 PM »
The systems work just fine together. It is just a matter of what you want them to do size wise. I have 2 closed loop geothermal systems heating my house, one water to water and one water to air for a total of 9 tons. I added a 50x60x16 shed to my heat load so my geothermal systems were not big enough then. I purchased a G series Heatmaster to handle all heat loads and DHW, now my geothermal is my backup. About 2 months after ordering my OWB I found a Geothermal system on Craig's List with all components (same make as my home's) big enough for my shed for $2200 including an air handler for A/C if I want. It was one year old, the guy didn't like it saying it was too loud. When I'm sick of cutting wood I'll put in a loop field and put my shed on geothermal too.
The point to all this is that you can make both systems to work together. Slim was fantastic in aiding a newbie like me at the time to the OWB world. The controls were not that complicated to configure as I had extensive experience in HVAC and Slim helped me figure out the best method for tying in the OWB. If it were me, I would put in Geothermal big enough for anticipated heat and cooling loads for the day when firing up that OWB gets old or your body says enough. Just my 2 cents worth.
The point to all this is that you can make both systems to work together. Slim was fantastic in aiding a newbie like me at the time to the OWB world. The controls were not that complicated to configure as I had extensive experience in HVAC and Slim helped me figure out the best method for tying in the OWB. If it were me, I would put in Geothermal big enough for anticipated heat and cooling loads for the day when firing up that OWB gets old or your body says enough. Just my 2 cents worth.
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HeatMaster / Re: HeatMaster Remote Monitoring Update
« on: July 06, 2018, 10:26:29 PM »
Mine must have the 6 then RSI. It is dim and with my ageing vision is hard to see at night.
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HeatMaster / Re: HeatMaster Remote Monitoring Update
« on: June 25, 2018, 10:11:24 PM »
Wonder if they will have an update kit for previous units?