Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: E Yoder on July 30, 2018, 02:16:47 PM
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Hi Guys,
I'd enjoy seeing some install pictures. I enjoy kicking around new ideas and seeing how you do things.
Thanks.
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looks nice! Ill post some pics soon of my new install. Still a work in progress
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The guy I buy my firewood from is in the process of swapping a pair of 2015 model Central 6048s (both leak profusely already, with no warranty of course) for a single C800. He's a pretty handy dude so he may very well do it himself, but whether it's him or me doing the install I want to get over there and see that thing. Will get some pics if I can
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The guy I buy my firewood from is in the process of swapping a pair of 2015 model Central 6048s (both leak profusely already, with no warranty of course) for a single C800. He's a pretty handy dude so he may very well do it himself, but whether it's him or me doing the install I want to get over there and see that thing. Will get some pics if I can
THATS A HUGE STOVE!
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Yeah, I'd like to see pictures.
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This GS400 is scheduled to head to South Carolina this week to replace an old T1000 Taylor (can't wait to see that big beast) . I'll post more when we get it hooked up!
Side note- this is the original Woodmaster trailer Dad got in in 20+ years ago. It's been patched and modified a few times and still pulls nice. Old faithful.
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Do you just raise it up and pull the channel out before setting it down and driving away or how's that thing work?
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Do you just raise it up and pull the channel out before setting it down and driving away or how's that thing work?
Exactly, I bought one somewhat like it from a retired Woodmaster dealer. He had his modified some more by the local welding shop. Believe the cable has a double throw if not a triple for more lift. Was also made taller, and has drop channels on it instead of straight. Has a battery box on the hitch for an incredibly heavy marine battery to run the whinch.
But yah, loosen the bolts in the hold down plates that slide over the stove feet, slide plates off stove feet. Raise stove, remove channel irons and loosen the turnbuckle that connects the left and right wheel, remove that, then set stove in place.
Far as pulling nice, when loaded it does, not so much once no stove is on it depending on the quality or lack of of the local roads.
Good to know though, haven’t had to pick a G400 with it yet.
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We don't bolt the channels down, just strap it down tight..
Also added pins to attach the channels right behind the wheels for the ride home. Gets weight down low and it doesn't bounce too bad. Believe me we've got the rough narrow roads. :D
A G4 is all it wants for weight.
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Ran it down today, fired up and started gassing clear at 82 degrees water temp. Nice dry wood, I think he'll do great. The old Taylor T1000 smoked the yard up and burned a lot of wood. This will be a nice upgrade I think.
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nice Eldon!!!!! How many sqft were they heating???
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Dad said around 5300 sq ft, poorly insulated (if any), high ceilings, 1800's construction, the T1000 Taylor (800 gallon) would hardly last overnight. Beautiful house, but tough to heat.
It aughta give the GS400 a workout... :) I wish it was closer to winter.
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Thought I'd share a picture of a G100 in the snow we had over the weekend. Bout got buried.
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I usually forget to take pictures but did remember to take a couple yesterday. This is a G200 that replaced a leaking Aquatherm.
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So out of curiosity, why the FPHX at the back of the stove? I’m guessing the aquatherm was pressurized and that goes to the house?
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Yes, was connected directly into the boiler system in the house.
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Is the underground loop being constantly circulated to and from the plate? I was going to do this with mine this year but haven't yet had the time, the thought being to save the ground loss from constant circulation. According to my math, even with Logstor, I have a constant 12,000 BTU ground loss. If I can cut to 12 hours by only circulating during heat call (glycol in the underground) it adds up to almost 2 cord a year. Likely even more, as I have considerable solar gain on sunny days. Could easily go 12 hours with no call for heat some days
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Yes, it is circulating constantly but would probably make sense not to. I wanted to do as little as possible in the house since it was kind of cobbled setup but working fine. I did replace one leaking compression fitting in the house with a crimp fitting but otherwise left it as is.
How many feet of Logstor do you have? that sounds like a lot of heatloss.
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175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
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Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.
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175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
I wonder why it is losing so much heat. Is there any chance it split open like what happened to someone's Thermopex here a couple years ago?
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175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
I wonder why it is losing so much heat. Is there any chance it split open like what happened to someone's Thermopex here a couple years ago?
"So much heat"? Pretty standard for Logstor. It's been that way since new and every other install I've done around here with Logstor, Thermopex, or Rehau is about the same; relative to distance. Heavy clay with a water table that's in the topsoil, it wicks more than dry sand would
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Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.
Do you ever have issues with that wrapped pipe? man that crap scares me.....
Install looks good!
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No, we haven't. We don't get the ponding water during spring thaw, and the hilly land helps too. The Z supply pipe is better quality than some too I think.
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Why don't you use end caps on it? I have seen leaking fittings (usually push type) let water run down the pipe and into the insulation.
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Good thought there. I should do that.
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Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.
Do you ever have issues with that wrapped pipe? man that crap scares me.....
Install looks good!
We’ve installed tens of thousands of feet of drainage tile over the years, the single wall from Z-supply is heavier than anything you’ll ever find at Lowes, Menards or TSC.
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I would like to know where to find the silver foam wrap, just the insulation only, if I wanted to make my own.
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? Badger might sell it to you. But it's not listed in their catalog. I dunno. I don't have their # but it's online.
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I would like to know where to find the silver foam wrap, just the insulation only, if I wanted to make my own.
I'm not sure what product Badger uses but you see a similar type of insulation used in a lot of barns and metal buildings, google double bubble insulation.
Probably not exactly the same stuff but that search should turn up what you are looking for.
I've used a couple million square feet of another type (Solarguard) but it has 1/4" of fiberglass between the outer facings, instead of plastic bubbles or some kind of foam.
Got my 5-wrap from Badger and ran it inside of some 6" SDR35 bell-end pipe, buried over and under with 1" clean crushed limestone, it's been working well for 5 years now.
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I get mine from www.insulation4less.com It works pretty good for a lot of applications.
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Not install pics but thought I'd post pics of the Highland Co Maple Festival. Some awesome rough country just north of us. Burned a G100 last Saturday there, and ran lines over in the Search and Rescue guys trailer beside me.
Amazing amount of folks drive over the mountain to eat all things maple on a windy March day.
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Out with the old Carolina stove, on with the G200! Carolina is an older brand that we run into in NC and no longer is manufactured.
Watermelon provided by the homeowner while we waited for the G200 to heat up.
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A GS200 purring along on a bluff overlooking the New River. One of my favorite things about my job. Meeting new people and seeing some awesome places.