As a newbie myself, even I can say that the thread list of "Looking for an OWB" does get old. There are times when you have similar threads, on the same page. I have started several "generic" threads, trying to get general info on certain products. Mostly just user experience. Something that needs to be start is a thread, comparing mild steel vs stainless, forced draft vs natural draft and so forth. I know that when the looking for an owb threads are started everyone tells them to decide based on those criteria. Mine and possibly many peoples problem is that either we don't know what would work best for us, or we just flat don't care as long as we stay warm during the winter.