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Would you prefer to live free

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Would you prefer to live under surveillance

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Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closed: June 03, 2014, 09:31:12 AM

[Homerglide]

Would you risk everything you have here today to challenge your government?

[NaturallyAspirated]

Would you risk everything you have here today to challenge your government?

The present government?  No.  It isn't that tyrannical yet.

Neal

[ijon]

Take off your blinders.

[jcc273]

Do i think its right that the government snoops and spies on us? - No

Am i surprised? - No

Do i have anything to hide? - No

So, really i don't care if they watch us.  Doesn't make it right, but i just don't really care.  Always assume someone is watching you anyways and act accordingly is my philosophy : ).

[mlappin]

Do i think its right that the government snoops and spies on us? - No

Am i surprised? - No

Do i have anything to hide? - No

So, really i don't care if they watch us.  Doesn't make it right, but i just don't really care.  Always assume someone is watching you anyways and act accordingly is my philosophy : ).

And that's fine, but if enough people "don't care" where does it stop?

I see your point though, the town we stay in when we visit the wife's family in the UK is about 35,000 people, they only have police on duty during the day to mainly take accident reports and what not, rest of the popo work is done by CCTV. Same concept, if you're doing nothing wrong what's the problem? Plenty. My privacy was just shot to hell.

[mlappin]

Would you risk everything you have here today to challenge your government?

The present government?  No.  It isn't that tyrannical yet.

Neal

Police arresting people at school board meetings for speaking their minds.

IRS being used to target the current administrations "enemy's".

Executive orders being used to bypass congress.

Not sure how much worse it has to get to fit your ideal of what a tyrannical government actually is.

What's going on makes me nervous enough.

Turn off the boob tube, the radio, you're smart phone and listen closely, the sound you hear is every vet since the revolutionary war spinning in their graves.

[Roger2561]

Would you risk everything you have here today to challenge your government?

The present government?  No.  It isn't that tyrannical yet.

Neal

Police arresting people at school board meetings for speaking their minds.

IRS being used to target the current administrations "enemy's".

Executive orders being used to bypass congress.

Not sure how much worse it has to get to fit your ideal of what a tyrannical government actually is.

What's going on makes me nervous enough.

Turn off the boob tube, the radio, you're smart phone and listen closely, the sound you hear is every vet since the revolutionary war spinning in their graves.

 

[NaturallyAspirated]

Would you risk everything you have here today to challenge your government?

The present government?  No.  It isn't that tyrannical yet.

Neal

Police arresting people at school board meetings for speaking their minds.

IRS being used to target the current administrations "enemy's".

Executive orders being used to bypass congress.

Not sure how much worse it has to get to fit your ideal of what a tyrannical government actually is.

What's going on makes me nervous enough.

Turn off the boob tube, the radio, you're smart phone and listen closely, the sound you hear is every vet since the revolutionary war spinning in their graves.

Sometimes the right of free speech doesn't trump the right of organized discussion.  The situation you are speaking of (I assume) is a little more than cops carrying someone away at a school board meeting for getting in front of the microphone in the allotted fashion.

The only group the IRS denied NP status to was a liberal organization.  About three times the number of conservative groups were approved NP status compared to liberal groups.  This whole IRS targeting conservative groups is silly.

Executive orders are commonly used by Presidents, the current one is hardly the first one to do so, nor is he leading the number in recent Presidents.

People thinking that our current government tyranny is sufficient to sacrifice their life for is simply idiotic, and laughable.

I'm smart enough not to by into the sensationalism that the government we presently have is sufficiently tyrannical to sacrifice my life for.  Come on.

Neal

[ijon]

Different duck.

[slimjim]

just KNEEL to your overlords Kneel, I think the Primaries in Kentucky 2 weeks ago tell the story very well, 10% of registered voters bothered to vote, not many from Kentucky feel that getting someone like Mitch MCconnel out of office is worth their time to vote, we are headed in a bad direction here in the land of Liberty. I am afraid and ashamed that it has been lost for our children due to the trust that people such as you have bestowed upon our overlords.

[Roger2561]

just KNEEL to your overlords Kneel, I think the Primaries in Kentucky 2 weeks ago tell the story very well, 10% of registered voters bothered to vote, not many from Kentucky feel that getting someone like Mitch MCconnel out of office is worth their time to vote, we are headed in a bad direction here in the land of Liberty. I am afraid and ashamed that it has been lost for our children due to the trust that people such as you have bestowed upon our overlords.

If ever you hear these words; "I'm from the government and I'm here to help", be afraid, be VERY afraid. 

[ijon]

Check out a few pages of the great and powerful health care program. If you get to the ripe old age of seventy-five and get cancer good luck to you because thats all you will get. This must be the way they are going to balance their budget, by killing off all the old people.

[slimjim]

A LOT shorter life span if you oppose the current administration I'm sure!!!!

[WoodMOJoe]

...This whole IRS targeting conservative groups is silly...

You are not deluded enough to think that the targeting did not happen...right?   

The IRS has already admitted it occurred.

The ex-director won't talk...hmmm.

Come on.

[NaturallyAspirated]

Check out a few pages of the great and powerful health care program. If you get to the ripe old age of seventy-five and get cancer good luck to you because thats all you will get. This must be the way they are going to balance their budget, by killing off all the old people.

Ignorant post.  That is no way is how it works.  In fact you are about as wrong and incorrect as possible.

Neal