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[slimjim]

So I have a potential customer for an install looking at the Crown Royal 7300 and he asked me what the efficiency rating is on it, does anybody know where it stands?

[slimjim]

Ryan Horne?

[wreckit87]

His/her dealer will have that info.

[slimjim]

Well you see, he doesn’t have a local dealer, I’ll be installing whatever he chooses to buy but all he has to go buy is the advertising found here and on Facebook. Ryan advertises up to 99% combustion efficiency but he and as well I would like to know what the actual overall average efficiency is of the boiler as compared to others on the market. I would think that a guy like you in the know with Crown Royal would be able to answer that very simple question.

[E Yoder]

Is that the 7300e, MP, or 7300? I get confused on their models with the same numbers being used.

[slimjim]

I think he’s looking at the E model Eldon and he’s wondering if it will qualify for the Efficiency Maine rebate.

[slimjim]

Hmmmmn, isn’t that odd? All this great news and advertising but not a sole can come up with any actual data about the efficiency numbers, something smells funny!

[E Yoder]

https://cfpub.epa.gov/oarweb/woodstove/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.searchwh

That's all I can find.

[slimjim]

Well surprise surprise, an anonymous donor just sent me a picture of their hang tag, not only did they barely pass the EPA qualification to be phase 2 compliant but they also show an efficiency rating of no better than 64%. Could somebody Please enlighten me as to why it’s OK to boast a 99% combustion efficiency with those sorts of numbers?

[hondaracer2oo4]

Something smells fishy. Crown royal isn’t selling factory direct into that area. There is a dealer that will be providing him the sale on the boiler and can provide information needed.

[RSI]

I am assuming the combustion efficiency is something like Pacific Western used to advertise. They claimed 97% if I remember right. I think that number for Pacific Western was the volume of wood to volume of ashes ratio.  I am not really sure why anyone would care about that but it sounds good advertising such a high number.

[slimjim]

Well then Hondaracer, what’s the big secret, who’s this new dealer and how does he contact that said dealer?

[slimjim]

RSI, I never sold Pacific Western so I wouldn’t have any part of their misleading information.
For those of us who are well versed in the language of wood boilers and combustion efficiency vs overall efficiency I guess that it would be a good selling point but for those who are just entering the wood boiler world and are led to believe that it’s an extremely efficient stove that rivals even propane boilers, it just doesn’t seem very honest to me. I wonder, if they use information such as that in order to sell their stoves, what else might they be holding back?
  If you all think that I’m picking on Crown Royal for some reason, your off base, I simply asked what the actual overall efficiency is, here in Maine the Public Utilities Commission set up a rebate program for high efficiency wood boilers and stoves, the unit needs to be a minimum of 75% efficient to qualify so I guess it’s not a qualifying unit.

[hondaracer2oo4]

What happened when the customer filled out the “ find dealer near you” form?  https://www.crownroyalstoves.com/find-a-dealer/

[hondaracer2oo4]

If he needs 75 percent overall efficiency then it looks like you’ll be installing a heatmaster g200.