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Central Boiler / E1450 Blower Motor Replacement
« on: November 11, 2019, 09:17:21 AM »
This is the second year in a row I've had to replace the blower motor for the season. There doesn't appear to be any lubrication ports on the blower, yet the bearings / motor keep seizing up. Has anyone else experienced issues with the blower? The original blower lasted only 5-6 years, replaced it last year, and again this year. The blowers worked at the end of the heating season, but wouldn't start up. I will be removing the blower and storing it inside next year if I can't figure out what's going on. Each blower costs $180, so I can't afford to keep replacing them. If anyone knows where I can get a comparable motor for cheaper, please let me know.
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Central Boiler / Re: E1450 clogged heat exchanger tubes - creosote
« on: November 28, 2017, 10:48:13 AM »
I have an e1450 and the H-Tool that was provided with it does a great job. A couple years ago the exchange became very clogged and I had to clean it out with a bent piece of 1/4" metal dowel and a bent piece of flatstock. I ended up getting the H-Tool stuck and the lower wire ring broke when I tried to pull it down. Fortunately I had the top chain in-tact to extract the tool. I ultimately replaced the wire rings with heavy duty chain links. I'd recommend other e1450 owners do the same.
If the boiler is running efficiently, my exchange doesn't get much build-up (even when burning soft woods). When the primary air intake gets some build-up and/or the air tubes, thicker emissions eventually accumulate everywhere. Once its starts running inefficiently, the process compounds itself and everything becomes a pain to clean. Key is to stay on top of the little things before they turn into bigger problems.
If the boiler is running efficiently, my exchange doesn't get much build-up (even when burning soft woods). When the primary air intake gets some build-up and/or the air tubes, thicker emissions eventually accumulate everywhere. Once its starts running inefficiently, the process compounds itself and everything becomes a pain to clean. Key is to stay on top of the little things before they turn into bigger problems.
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Central Boiler / Re: Draining boiler in winter
« on: February 16, 2015, 07:21:09 AM »
Thanks slimjim
I planned on draining as much as I could from the unit outside and then draining the rest of the lines from the sillcock in my basement. not sure how to blow out the lines with my setup. Do I need to take apart the lines where they come into the boiler?
Also, will draining the water create any issues with rust inside?
Thanks again
I planned on draining as much as I could from the unit outside and then draining the rest of the lines from the sillcock in my basement. not sure how to blow out the lines with my setup. Do I need to take apart the lines where they come into the boiler?
Also, will draining the water create any issues with rust inside?
Thanks again
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Central Boiler / Draining boiler in winter
« on: February 16, 2015, 06:24:39 AM »
I need to drain my 1450 for a few months. It will be shut off so I'm draining it to prevent freezing. Anything special I should know or consider before doing so?
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Central Boiler / Re: E1450 Reaction Chamber Temperature Sensor
« on: October 31, 2014, 07:21:15 AM »
What were the reaction temps prior to adjusting?
Mine seem to be just under the water temp
Mine seem to be just under the water temp
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Central Boiler / Re: Water Loss
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:26:37 PM »
Also, I plan on shutting it down in a couple weeks and giving it a good cleaning for the summer. Any tips?
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Central Boiler / Re: Water Loss
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:24:49 PM »
It is currently running but was shut down for a month or so. The boiler ran great all winter, but I decided to shut it down to burn the rest of the oil in my tank in my basement (the tank is very old and I didn't want 200 gallons sitting there for a year or several years.) When I fired the CB-1450 up again this week the water level was close to the bottom (as I expected), however after reaching full temp it was only at 3/4, and it started at a little over full at the beginning of the season... maybe 1 1/8. 3/8 loss seems like a lot to me, but I can't find a leak or sign of water anywhere.
I'll attach a photo of the door.
I'll attach a photo of the door.
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Central Boiler / Water Loss
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:57:02 AM »
The water gauge is showing the water lower than what I started with at the beginning of the season. I've checked everything outside and in my basement for leaks and can't find a drop of water leaking anywhere. Is it typical to lose water to evaporation...etc?
Also, I noticed a small spot of discoloration on the plate that's mounted on main door. May be rust. Anyone have any insight into this?
Thanks,
Jasan
CB-1450
Also, I noticed a small spot of discoloration on the plate that's mounted on main door. May be rust. Anyone have any insight into this?
Thanks,
Jasan
CB-1450
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Central Boiler / Re: E Classic?
« on: February 18, 2014, 06:43:15 PM »
This is my first year burning with a 1450. As roger and others have said, key is seasoned wood. You can burn any type if it's seasoned well. Some offer more heat than others obviously. In general my unit hardly smokes at all unless I put new wood in or it's pulsing... The amount of smoke is also directly proportional to how seasoned it is in my opinion. In fact I've been layering very seasoned wood and semi seasoned ash and I can tell how far down the wood is by the smoke it puts out (keep in mind they burn upside down so that's how I know) I will not burn anything less than 1.5-2 years seasoned in years to come after seeing the difference. The 1450 does require more daily/weekly maintenance than the old classics.
My parents have owned a 6048 for 7 or 8 years with no issue. They can burn wet pine or anything they decide to cut each day and have no issue with the fire going out. Don't expect that with the 1450. I will say that they burn a lot more wood (due to the units size, unseasoned wood and less efficiency without gasification) and their unit puts out a lot of smoke. All in all I'm glad I have the 1450. Learning how to properly operate it was a huge learning curve. A little knowledge of how the unit works goes a long way. Folks here are a great resource and always willing to help.
When I was first researching I had a lot of questions. Feel free to ask.
I burn one full cord of wood every two weeks when the weather is in the single digits. This is due to having 50 percent horsehair insulation and 50 percent no insulation. We just got a couple feet of snow and now One cord will last me over a month... The snow is actually insulating my house and decreasing my wood consumption by 50 percent. Lol. We plan on insulating this year once half the house is reconstructed again. My house is roughly 2000 sf and we keep the temp at 72 usually.
Any specific questions about the 1450 feel free to ask
My parents have owned a 6048 for 7 or 8 years with no issue. They can burn wet pine or anything they decide to cut each day and have no issue with the fire going out. Don't expect that with the 1450. I will say that they burn a lot more wood (due to the units size, unseasoned wood and less efficiency without gasification) and their unit puts out a lot of smoke. All in all I'm glad I have the 1450. Learning how to properly operate it was a huge learning curve. A little knowledge of how the unit works goes a long way. Folks here are a great resource and always willing to help.
When I was first researching I had a lot of questions. Feel free to ask.
I burn one full cord of wood every two weeks when the weather is in the single digits. This is due to having 50 percent horsehair insulation and 50 percent no insulation. We just got a couple feet of snow and now One cord will last me over a month... The snow is actually insulating my house and decreasing my wood consumption by 50 percent. Lol. We plan on insulating this year once half the house is reconstructed again. My house is roughly 2000 sf and we keep the temp at 72 usually.
Any specific questions about the 1450 feel free to ask
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Site Suggestions / Re: Don't you all feel warm and fuzzy after last nights state of the union address
« on: January 30, 2014, 05:53:51 PM »
I'd love to leave upstate NY if it weren't for family and the beauty of the Catskills. Trying to change politics on the state level is like herding cats. Glad I live in a sensible county. Need to get rid of Cuomo, his unconstitutional Safe Act and educate his supporters on the Constitution. Everyone hates paying taxes, but the worst part is seeing the stupid things they're wasted on.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: For all those Newbies Looking for a boiler
« on: January 30, 2014, 05:20:00 PM »
Quite an entertaining array of forum posts. Although I agree that drpinard deserves every comment posted, I still feel as though there is an injustice inherent with respect to each brand of outdoor wood boilers, individually. Any debate regarding the pros and cons of different brands of boilers is inevitably nonobjective to begin with. We're talking about apples and oranges here people. I recently performed countless hours of research to answer the daunting question of which boiler is best. I am not wealthy; I am not stupid; and I needed to take out my first home equity loan to solely pay for my boiler, so I can certainly assure you that I looked at each and every company brochure, internet post, youtube video, performance study, literature etc. and talked to every owb in a 50 mile radius that I knew before buying my boiler. After researching and researching and researching, I can tell you two things:
1) In general, the big decision is buying an outdoor wood boiler. Each brand offers its own advantages. Most of these advantages are simply COMPROMISES from other designs. It's like deciding to buy a Porche Boxster or a 70's plow truck. Are you compromising speed, function, aesthetics, price...etc? Some things are more important to some people than others. What fits you will not necessarily fit your neighbor, your uncle or any random stranger on the internet.
2) The world, the internet and this website are full of subjectively minded people. People (and I'm no exception) will tend to back their brand and note all the pros/cons of each brand instead of focusing on the compromises. I love my boiler, it fits me and I am certainly glad I bought it. Would I recommend it to my brother? ABSOLUTELTY! Would I recommend it to my father-in law? FOR SURE! Would I recommend it to my neighbor? PROBABLY NOT. I think that some of the other brands/models I researched would fit him better.
Let us all focus on the uniqueness of each brand/model so that potential informers can purchase a boiler that fits THEIR needs, not ours, and ultimately strengthen the outdoor wood boiler community. God knows we have a tough road ahead if we want to keep burning wood. Fryedaddy posted some sensible logic. And to add to it... forget the smaller competitor... we have the EPA to watch out for.
Oh... and to contradict myself... I'm still getting way too much enjoyment out of this forum post, so please feel free to continue debating. GO CENTRAL BOILER !!!
1) In general, the big decision is buying an outdoor wood boiler. Each brand offers its own advantages. Most of these advantages are simply COMPROMISES from other designs. It's like deciding to buy a Porche Boxster or a 70's plow truck. Are you compromising speed, function, aesthetics, price...etc? Some things are more important to some people than others. What fits you will not necessarily fit your neighbor, your uncle or any random stranger on the internet.
2) The world, the internet and this website are full of subjectively minded people. People (and I'm no exception) will tend to back their brand and note all the pros/cons of each brand instead of focusing on the compromises. I love my boiler, it fits me and I am certainly glad I bought it. Would I recommend it to my brother? ABSOLUTELTY! Would I recommend it to my father-in law? FOR SURE! Would I recommend it to my neighbor? PROBABLY NOT. I think that some of the other brands/models I researched would fit him better.
Let us all focus on the uniqueness of each brand/model so that potential informers can purchase a boiler that fits THEIR needs, not ours, and ultimately strengthen the outdoor wood boiler community. God knows we have a tough road ahead if we want to keep burning wood. Fryedaddy posted some sensible logic. And to add to it... forget the smaller competitor... we have the EPA to watch out for.
Oh... and to contradict myself... I'm still getting way too much enjoyment out of this forum post, so please feel free to continue debating. GO CENTRAL BOILER !!!
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Central Boiler / Re: Eclassic 1450 ash
« on: January 27, 2014, 04:25:08 PM »
Welcome to the Forum CentralBoiler3200User.
How much wood do you burn with your 3200? What type of wood? I've been noticing that it will affect the amount of ash produced.
How much wood do you burn with your 3200? What type of wood? I've been noticing that it will affect the amount of ash produced.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Just wondering what everybody out there is running for a system
« on: January 16, 2014, 04:24:30 PM »
I've got an old house with big cast iron radiators. Currently retrofitting some side rooms that don't have heat with radiant tubing. My system is powered through a 70-plate heat exchanger (overkill) and runs through my existing oil boiler in case I decide to switch back to oil temporarily (has not happened yet). The radiators take up a lot of usable floor space, but they are awesome to heat with. Nothing better than hanging my jacket over them, putting my gloves and hat on them and letting them get toasty warm for my next visit outside. They are a double edged sword, however, when it comes to the amount of water they hold... If my boiler ever goes out, the radiators hold a few hundred gallons so they will keep the house warm for an additional day or more . They also take about 1/2 day to heat back up to temp though. This becomes a pain and requires its own sequence of of startup steps. 
My family loves sitting on the radiators when they visit and our two dogs curl up next to them in the evening. We keep the temp at 70-72 but it is very drafty. I'm convinced that although big and bulky... radiators provide the most comfortable heat. They're not dry like forced air and not subject to convection drafts like baseboard... just my opinion of course.
all-in-all.. very pleased with my setup. Just need to insulate my house!!! The horse-hair has settled in the cavities of the walls and my insulation value is nonexistent. Single-pane windows and unsealed doors don't help either. Work in progress. I'll get there...
Oh and I'm also hooking up a smaller heat exchanger for my dhw before it enters the electric coil. I don't plan on running my boiler during the summer.
. They also take about 1/2 day to heat back up to temp though. This becomes a pain and requires its own sequence of of startup steps. My family loves sitting on the radiators when they visit and our two dogs curl up next to them in the evening. We keep the temp at 70-72 but it is very drafty. I'm convinced that although big and bulky... radiators provide the most comfortable heat. They're not dry like forced air and not subject to convection drafts like baseboard... just my opinion of course.all-in-all.. very pleased with my setup. Just need to insulate my house!!! The horse-hair has settled in the cavities of the walls and my insulation value is nonexistent. Single-pane windows and unsealed doors don't help either. Work in progress. I'll get there...
Oh and I'm also hooking up a smaller heat exchanger for my dhw before it enters the electric coil. I don't plan on running my boiler during the summer.
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Central Boiler / Re: Eclassic 1450 ash
« on: January 08, 2014, 11:16:26 AM »
Going to close out my original post: after a few months of burning, I'm finally getting the ash I expected. I suspect the first few weeks were very light due to warmer outside temps, less wood consumed and there's a large volume of space that ash will occupy before the reaction chamber needs to be cleaned. I probably have a few buckets in the top hopper mixed in with my continuous bed of coals. I try to shake what I can down each fill, and now it seems like I need to clean twice a week. (could probably go 1-1.5 weeks without cleaning but that would just make a mess)
I've been cleaning it every Wednesday and Saturday with a small (few gallon) bucket being taken out each time. I cleaned the heat exchanger for the first time ever this past weekend and I maybe have a handful or two of ash from it after a few months of burning.
Thanks everyone.
J
I've been cleaning it every Wednesday and Saturday with a small (few gallon) bucket being taken out each time. I cleaned the heat exchanger for the first time ever this past weekend and I maybe have a handful or two of ash from it after a few months of burning.
Thanks everyone.
J
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Central Boiler / Re: Metallic Smell
« on: January 08, 2014, 11:05:07 AM »
I haven't noticed any hot spots on the outside. Every time I've felt the outside it's been relatively cold (snow stays on the roof too). I'll take a closer look when I'm home and check the entire outside to make sure there's no isolated areas. The smell comes from the smoke (or lack thereof), and I can smell it 50 feet away downstream of the chimney but not up close. It's not constant either... just periodically. I maybe notice it once a week when it's running very efficiently.
I'm curious if you or anyone else has noticed it.
Read your other posts. I routinely check the air holes, but I'll give them another, more close look. I have yet to have any creosote issues; it seems like the build up doesn't reach the holes before being burned off. I've had an issue with my coals being too deep and suffocating the primary chamber from the secondary chamber. After multiple fire-outs, I ended up shoveling old coals out and haven't had a problem since I learned that lesson a month or two ago.
Lesson is: -know when to fill the fire. If you fill too frequently, coals get too high. If you don't fill enough, not enough coals. Also depends on type/MC of wood, outside temp..etc.
I'll post back if I find anything more tonight. Thanks Roger.
J
I'm curious if you or anyone else has noticed it.
Read your other posts. I routinely check the air holes, but I'll give them another, more close look. I have yet to have any creosote issues; it seems like the build up doesn't reach the holes before being burned off. I've had an issue with my coals being too deep and suffocating the primary chamber from the secondary chamber. After multiple fire-outs, I ended up shoveling old coals out and haven't had a problem since I learned that lesson a month or two ago.
Lesson is: -know when to fill the fire. If you fill too frequently, coals get too high. If you don't fill enough, not enough coals. Also depends on type/MC of wood, outside temp..etc.
I'll post back if I find anything more tonight. Thanks Roger.
J
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