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[Scott7m]

Slim, you keep ignoring the part about a good portion of my stoves are approved for indoor and outdoor installation?     But I'm kinda just waiting for your response to regular indoor wood stoves n such!? 

I don't think anyone in there right mind could say an owb in a barn is more dangerous than a regular wood burner or even electric furnace in a home!?

[slimjim]

YOU may do as you wish, I will do as my concience guides me, I WILL refuse any sales that I consider unsafe and not up to common sense standards of the industry, Indoor stoves have rules of installation as well, National fire protection codes define these pretty well and even when I choose not to agree with them I will make the homeowner aware of the hazard and let them make the decision with knowledge on thier side. What do you think will happen if the waste oil barrel / tank he has stored in the building catches on fire because of carelesness. The whole problem is avoided by using common sense and in my opinion it is the job of the industry to teach common sense here.

[MattyNH]

Slim, you keep ignoring the part about a good portion of my stoves are approved for indoor and outdoor installation?     But I'm kinda just waiting for your response to regular indoor wood stoves n such!? 

I don't think anyone in there right mind could say an owb in a barn is more dangerous than a regular wood burner or even electric furnace in a home!?

I would have to agree on your last part of the post

[slimjim]

I'm not ignoring anything as our units are approved for inside install as well, the install in question does not even come close to being up to code, see here in this socialist state we must not only hold a solid fuel license that takes 4 years to achieve under a licensed master but we also must abide by certain codes for fire safety,  I would not want to try and sleep at night thinking that somebody lost a building or God forbid a life because I did not take the time to explain the dangers to a newbe

[Scott7m]

YOU may do as you wish, I will do as my concience guides me, I WILL refuse any sales that I consider unsafe and not up to common sense standards of the industry, Indoor stoves have rules of installation as well, National fire protection codes define these pretty well and even when I choose not to agree with them I will make the homeowner aware of the hazard and let them make the decision with knowledge on thier side. What do you think will happen if the waste oil barrel / tank he has stored in the building catches on fire because of carelesness. The whole problem is avoided by using common sense and in my opinion it is the job of the industry to teach common sense here.

Would it be safe to say you think anyone who burns wood inside a dwelling is a fool!? 

Not trying to be smart, but it seems that's your position...

Regardless of codes, I'm really curious as to which you would consider more dangerous!?  An old king wood stove sitting in the corner of a home where a family lives, or an outdoor wood boiler in a barn?!

I think an owb is safer than a fuel oil furnace, propane furnace, wood stove, electric furnace, you name it

[Scott7m]

Well if the law here was stated that I could not install in a shed or barn I wouldn't, but im not going to pretend to be the popo and tell them they can't do what they want, because its what there gonna do anyway

But im not going to tell someone that he can't do what he wants with it, it's his barn, his stove, his everything...  I have no right to tell another man he can't do as he chooses...  It's just not in my nature to put myself above someone

Once again, not stating I am promoting this, just saying that in regards to danger, I'd feel worse about any kind of electric heater or indoor stove than a boiler in a barn.

[uncle]

I appreciate all the concerns, this is my first year with my fires OWB.

I have already pulled the pipe and cut the hole in the roof. I just need a couple 45's to get clearance away from a 2x6.

I'm still concerned about sealing the stack to the corrugated roof tin.

Brian 

[Scott7m]

I appreciate all the concerns, this is my first year with my fires OWB.

I have already pulled the pipe and cut the hole in the roof. I just need a couple 45's to get clearance away from a 2x6.

I'm still concerned about sealing the stack to the corrugated roof tin.

Brian

That's not hard to do, there is simple flashing that slides or wraps around the pipe with a flexible rubber seal

[BigAlsc]

We get it safety is a lot to do with personal opinion and common sense. Still trying to figure out if the 8' piece of uninsulated schedule 40 steel pipe on top of a natures comfort boiler is acceptable running through a metal roof.  Recently acquired a piece of schedule 10 stainless that I was going to adapt to boiler pipe or do I need the double or triple wall stainless pipe?

[Scott7m]

Uninsulated that length will be a pain in the neck, the exhaust will cool to quickly and cause major creosote

I'd adapt over to double wall stainless steel

[BigAlsc]

Dektite makes a high temp silicone boot not sure if it will handle the high temps of an uninsulated smoke stack.

[BigAlsc]

Had quite a lot of creosote build up last year but tried to stay on top of it didn't think the uninsulated part would be a problem with the forced draft but learning otherwise

[slimjim]

YOU may do as you wish, I will do as my concience guides me, I WILL refuse any sales that I consider unsafe and not up to common sense standards of the industry, Indoor stoves have rules of installation as well, National fire protection codes define these pretty well and even when I choose not to agree with them I will make the homeowner aware of the hazard and let them make the decision with knowledge on thier side. What do you think will happen if the waste oil barrel / tank he has stored in the building catches on fire because of carelesness. The whole problem is avoided by using common sense and in my opinion it is the job of the industry to teach common sense here.

Would it be safe to say you think anyone who burns wood inside a dwelling is a fool!? NO but it should be done right in either indoor or outdoor and the public is sometimes not educated as we should be of the potential dangers, I have made my point  and it is now time for a little rest, I will now say goodnight now, thanks for the debate.

Not trying to be smart, but it seems that's your position...

Regardless of codes, I'm really curious as to which you would consider more dangerous!?  An old king wood stove sitting in the corner of a home where a family lives, or an outdoor wood boiler in a barn?!

I think an owb is safer than a fuel oil furnace, propane furnace, wood stove, electric furnace, you name it

[slimjim]

WOW I don't know what happened with that last post, I'm tired and going to bed, No on the indoor question, just teach safety indoor or outdoor, we just in March had a local guy get 3rd degree burns over 90% of his body because he tried to light his OWB with a can of gas, he will be in Boston living in a tent for at least a year. You can't fix stupid but that does not mean you shouldn"t try.

[Scott7m]

WOW I don't know what happened with that last post, I'm tired and going to bed, No on the indoor question, just teach safety indoor or outdoor, we just in March had a local guy get 3rd degree burns over 90% of his body because he tried to light his OWB with a can of gas, he will be in Boston living in a tent for at least a year. You can't fix stupid but that does not mean you shouldn"t try.

we all do have the obligation to tell folks how there supposed to be installed..  and we all do I assume, but I feel there is little we can do in a lot of situations