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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Need more pump?
« on: October 07, 2018, 10:05:51 AM »
My current setup in the house is 3 zones, one for each level of a 1800sq/ft split level house. Each zone is approximately the same size and length of pipe. Each zone is on it's own valve and the entire system is powered with a Grundfos 15-42f pump.
I just finished a kitchen remodel and swapped out one of the baseboards for heated floors using ultra-fins. I removed around 20ft of 3/4in copper pipe and added approximately 150ft of 1/2in pex. Now the 15-42f is struggling to move the water/heat through that loop!! even with the other 2 zones off, I'm not getting any heat through that loop and it sounds like the pump is struggling to pump (if I open another loop you can hear the pump stop struggling).
So my question is, should I find a way/place to add an additional pump on that loop to help the 15-42 move the water or should I upgrade the 15-42 for a bigger pump?
I just finished a kitchen remodel and swapped out one of the baseboards for heated floors using ultra-fins. I removed around 20ft of 3/4in copper pipe and added approximately 150ft of 1/2in pex. Now the 15-42f is struggling to move the water/heat through that loop!! even with the other 2 zones off, I'm not getting any heat through that loop and it sounds like the pump is struggling to pump (if I open another loop you can hear the pump stop struggling).
So my question is, should I find a way/place to add an additional pump on that loop to help the 15-42 move the water or should I upgrade the 15-42 for a bigger pump?
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Plumbing / Add a loop (zone) to existing system
« on: November 22, 2017, 12:56:48 PM »
Ok, my house is currently on 3 zones, one for each level of our split level house. The main level of the house is our kitchen, dinning room, main living and also a sun porch on the back of the house which is now our sons playroom. The thermostat is in the living room at the front of the house. The entire house system has a single pump and then there are 3 zone valves that are each connected to a thermostat on each level.
We have baseboard heat with an oil boiler that runs as a backup if the OWB runs out of wood. Everything works really well, except the sun room tends to be really cold. It's all Windows and with the thermostat on the opposite side of the room, it's hard to keep it warm without over heating the rest of the house.
I would like to pull that room off the main floor loop and put it on its own thermostat. That way we can warm it up when he is back there and not over heat the rest of the house. What is the best way to add a loop without completely reworking the whole system? Should I add it to the main system and add a new zone valve? Should I add a new small pump just for that zone? I've done all the install work on my system so I'm not worried about doing the work, just want to know the best way to do it.
We have baseboard heat with an oil boiler that runs as a backup if the OWB runs out of wood. Everything works really well, except the sun room tends to be really cold. It's all Windows and with the thermostat on the opposite side of the room, it's hard to keep it warm without over heating the rest of the house.
I would like to pull that room off the main floor loop and put it on its own thermostat. That way we can warm it up when he is back there and not over heat the rest of the house. What is the best way to add a loop without completely reworking the whole system? Should I add it to the main system and add a new zone valve? Should I add a new small pump just for that zone? I've done all the install work on my system so I'm not worried about doing the work, just want to know the best way to do it.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Looking for a good stand-alone in wall heater
« on: January 09, 2017, 05:51:55 PM »
My house is all hot water baseboard heat. I have a 12x14 sun room with a vaulted ceiling on the back of the house that is all windows. It has baseboard on 2 walls that does OK at keeping the room somewhat heated, but it still gets down around 55-60 when its really cold out. Its on the main floor of the house on the same heating loop as the kitchen, dinning and living rooms. So its taking heat we could use in the main page of the house and isnt getting very warm.
We recently started using the room as a play room for our 3 year old. Im looking for a stand-alone heater we can put in the wall on its own loop that has its own electric fan that I can wire to a thermostat. Something we could turn on and off when he is out there. I know it will waste a ton of heat to try and keep it 70 back there 24/7, but I want to be able to warm it up more when he is out there. I see a bunch of options online, but not sure what is good and what isnt worth it.
We recently started using the room as a play room for our 3 year old. Im looking for a stand-alone heater we can put in the wall on its own loop that has its own electric fan that I can wire to a thermostat. Something we could turn on and off when he is out there. I know it will waste a ton of heat to try and keep it 70 back there 24/7, but I want to be able to warm it up more when he is out there. I see a bunch of options online, but not sure what is good and what isnt worth it.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Heated floor options
« on: March 14, 2016, 06:49:55 PM »
Getting ready to give our upstairs bathroom a facelift. Its a small room, like 50sq/ft including thr vanity, tub and small closet. Part of the project is to put down a tile floor. The bathroom is currently heated with a 30 in baseboard, hot water heat, that doesn't put off much heat. I'm thinking about heating the floor since it's such a small space, I'm redoing the floor anyway, and the room could use more heat.
The bathroom is the last room on the upstairs loop that includes 3 bedrooms. I want to be able to install something that will run in line with the loop I have and not have to worry about running a new loop or tempering valve or anything like that. I'm not sure if I should leave the 30in baseboard unit as well as the heated floor, or just the floor?
I have access to almost all of the floor from the bathroom below it, and have no problem cutting up the floor in the other spot and putting it back down after so I can heat the whole area.
The area I would be heating would be 6ft of joist (16in on center), 8ft of joist (16in) and then 8ft of half a joist (8in) so it would be a fairly short run.
Thoughts? What products should I be looking for?
The bathroom is the last room on the upstairs loop that includes 3 bedrooms. I want to be able to install something that will run in line with the loop I have and not have to worry about running a new loop or tempering valve or anything like that. I'm not sure if I should leave the 30in baseboard unit as well as the heated floor, or just the floor?
I have access to almost all of the floor from the bathroom below it, and have no problem cutting up the floor in the other spot and putting it back down after so I can heat the whole area.
The area I would be heating would be 6ft of joist (16in on center), 8ft of joist (16in) and then 8ft of half a joist (8in) so it would be a fairly short run.
Thoughts? What products should I be looking for?
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Fire Wood / trailer winch
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »
Finally have a trailer for firewood. Got a 14x5 utility trailer that is going to be setup for pulling logs and wood onto the trailer, I'm sick of lifting it. I will be putting a winch on the trailer and I'm wondering if I should go with a 5000lb or a 9000lb winch. I will be building a log arch onto the back of the trailer to help lift the logs onto the trailer. Might also build a side lift for the bigger rounds that are cut down to firewood size onside.
The winch will be in a cradle that is mounted to a hitch on the front of the trailer and will also be able to be used on the back of the Jeep for when I can't get close enough to drag the logs out of the woods to the trailer
What do you guys have/recommend??
The winch will be in a cradle that is mounted to a hitch on the front of the trailer and will also be able to be used on the back of the Jeep for when I can't get close enough to drag the logs out of the woods to the trailer
What do you guys have/recommend??
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Electronics / help!! Triple aquastat doesn't want to turn on my pump!!
« on: January 16, 2016, 10:15:40 AM »
I woke up to a cold house today!! OWB was humming along at 180*, all 3 zones calling for heat, but no water was being pumped! 
I tracked it down to the Honeywell L8124L triple aquastat on the oil boiler not sending any power to my pump. The way my system works the oil boiler is a backup, but the inside controls and everything still run through the aquastat on my oil boiler.
Is there anything I can do to fix the issue other then buying a new aquastat?? No one local has any (or they are closed till monday to even check) It's going to be COLD tonight and other then bypassing the wiring and plugging the pump into the wall and running it none stop, I have no way of heating the house???
I tracked it down to the Honeywell L8124L triple aquastat on the oil boiler not sending any power to my pump. The way my system works the oil boiler is a backup, but the inside controls and everything still run through the aquastat on my oil boiler.Is there anything I can do to fix the issue other then buying a new aquastat?? No one local has any (or they are closed till monday to even check) It's going to be COLD tonight and other then bypassing the wiring and plugging the pump into the wall and running it none stop, I have no way of heating the house???
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Advanced Electronics / Anyone running an x300 for monitoring??
« on: January 12, 2016, 06:20:47 PM »
I plan on running an x300 from control by web next year for monitoring by boiler. I'm trying to get some leg work done ahead of time so I'm ready to go when I pull the trigger on getting an x300. I'm currently designing/programming a more visually appealing website for the x300 data with gauges for the temptress and a line chart graph for the logs.
Is anyone running an x300 that would like to share their Web address that I could use to test my site? Once I get everything setup and running, it will be very easy to let anyone else use the same setup with their x300.
Does anyone have the contact info for the user Marty (hasn't been on this site for almost a year) who had setup a website to log and monitor his x300 with a MySQL setup? I don't want to sign up for another site just to send him an email. He had done a lot of the same work I will be done and I wanted to pick his brain.
Is anyone running an x300 that would like to share their Web address that I could use to test my site? Once I get everything setup and running, it will be very easy to let anyone else use the same setup with their x300.
Does anyone have the contact info for the user Marty (hasn't been on this site for almost a year) who had setup a website to log and monitor his x300 with a MySQL setup? I don't want to sign up for another site just to send him an email. He had done a lot of the same work I will be done and I wanted to pick his brain.
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Electronics / Combining 2 thermostats
« on: January 04, 2016, 11:17:43 AM »
My house is heated with baseboard hot water heat from an oil boiler (now wood burner) with 3 zones. I also have AC that was added in the attic recently (right before we bought the house). On the upper level of the house is where the bedrooms are, with the heat thermostat in the master bedroom. The AC thermostat for the entire house is in the hallway right outside the master. I would like to combine the 2 thermostats into one. Wiring isn't a problem, as I can run the heating wire start through the wall.
I understand the Rh and RC being the red from each source, however my confusion is what do I do with the white wires? Hook both into the thermostat, or just pick one and use that?
I don't have a need for the C wire yet, but I plan to go with a wifi thermostat in the future. Can I pull power from the red wire from my boiler to power the C on the thermostat?
I understand the Rh and RC being the red from each source, however my confusion is what do I do with the white wires? Hook both into the thermostat, or just pick one and use that?
I don't have a need for the C wire yet, but I plan to go with a wifi thermostat in the future. Can I pull power from the red wire from my boiler to power the C on the thermostat?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Large heat loss issue??
« on: January 04, 2016, 10:56:18 AM »
New guy, first offcial post, although Marty has been posting for me.
I have had my new boiler up and running for a couple of weeks. It's an Ecomax Farm Blaster 125.
The problem I'm having is I can't seem to get water hotter then 150-160 into the house, even with the boiler at 200 (reading on both the aquastat and front temp gauge)! I have a digital temp sensor on the line where it enters the house, and get the same temp readings of 150-160 with my infrared thermometer. When I first fired it up I was getting readings of 170-180 when it was 60 outside. Now that it's cold, I can't seem to get the temps up. All of the lines and fittings at the back of the boiler are fully insulated.
The boiler is currently 35ft from the house with the insulated lines on top of the ground (it will get moved next summer with the lines burried). I currently have snow on top of the lines, so it's not losing any heat through the 5 wrap lines. I'm running a 15-58 pump and have run it on both Medium and High and seem to get the same results.
The lines into the house are 1in pex inside of 5wrap Badger pipe and then switch to all 1in copper lines. I have snow on top of and under the insulated lines (they are raised with wood slats to not kill the grass) so I don't think the is the issue. The lines are insulated where they pass through the wall of the house and the surrounding blocks are cold, so I'm not heating them.
I'm at a loss for where to check next?
I have had my new boiler up and running for a couple of weeks. It's an Ecomax Farm Blaster 125.
The problem I'm having is I can't seem to get water hotter then 150-160 into the house, even with the boiler at 200 (reading on both the aquastat and front temp gauge)! I have a digital temp sensor on the line where it enters the house, and get the same temp readings of 150-160 with my infrared thermometer. When I first fired it up I was getting readings of 170-180 when it was 60 outside. Now that it's cold, I can't seem to get the temps up. All of the lines and fittings at the back of the boiler are fully insulated.
The boiler is currently 35ft from the house with the insulated lines on top of the ground (it will get moved next summer with the lines burried). I currently have snow on top of the lines, so it's not losing any heat through the 5 wrap lines. I'm running a 15-58 pump and have run it on both Medium and High and seem to get the same results.
The lines into the house are 1in pex inside of 5wrap Badger pipe and then switch to all 1in copper lines. I have snow on top of and under the insulated lines (they are raised with wood slats to not kill the grass) so I don't think the is the issue. The lines are insulated where they pass through the wall of the house and the surrounding blocks are cold, so I'm not heating them.
I'm at a loss for where to check next?
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