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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heatmaster MF5000... Just sprung a leak

« on: October 17, 2015, 11:53:33 PM »

Ok this is the rest of my leak story just to keep everyone posted.

The Bad News

 So I originally started losing water in Jan.  Ended up having to fill it up every couple days.  My dealer did not beleive me about the leak until I showed him video of the amount of water in my ash pan.  At that point, now Feb. It was so cold I just kept filling the boiler every couple days. Usually about 15-20 gallons.  Then for what ever reason at the end of Feb. the boiler stopped leaking.  Once spring  came I had to beg and plead my dealer to come pressure test it.  He finally showed up Aug/20..I couldn't believe this guys total lack of service.
 As he pressure tested it, starting at  about 5psi it started leaking/spraying in the ash pan about half way up...In more than one place...

From the end of Aug until the end of Sep. I contacted my dealer every couple days with my warranty claim, he would tell me it's being worked on, he sent in all the information via registered mail...and the video he took of the leaks while pressure testing. 

The really Bad News

After a month of getting nowhere I was so fed up with the dealer I contacted the heatmaster (steeltech) directly myself...What they had to say blew me away. 

They told me that they had not received any information about my claim.  And they had dropped my POS dealer as a rep.  This whole time this piece of $hit was lying to me saying he was working on it..sending info...to stop worrying..and he wasn't even a dealer anymore.. This guy gave me a huge run around for nothing..At this point in time my only backup is electric..money is very tight..my house is fairly large with terrible insulation..I also have 2 of the largest heat demands, any house could have....a one year old daughter...and a pissed off wife..What this dealer put me through I take very personally at this point....



THE GOOD NEWS

HeatMaster is the best..From the moment I contacted them directly it was nothing but the best service possible.  They had a new furnace delivered to the new dealer in my area  in a matter of days.  Heatmaster was going to cover everything even the new install.  But the new dealer would not be able to do the install for a couple weeks.  I didn't feel like waiting. So I borrowed a friends case 580, had the dealer trailer the boiler to my place ..I put it place, hooked it up and have been burning wood for the last 3 days...I can't say enough good things about heatmaster....It was -6C last night and I slept with no blankets..enough said..Thanks heatmaster

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heatmaster MF5000... Just sprung a leak

« on: January 28, 2015, 11:23:56 AM »

It's been 24 hours.. Since I noticed the leak... At that time I filled the boiler back up.. To the full float level.. Now a day later I'm at the half way mark.. I have pulled out the ash pan.. Water seems to be collecting in the back left hand side of the ash pan channel.. On my way in to talk to my dealer this afternoon

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Heatmaster MF5000... Just sprung a leak

« on: January 27, 2015, 11:45:43 AM »

Just went to check on my 2 month old heatmaster MF5000... Noticed water on the ground.. Then looked up at the water level float.. Level has dropped from 80% to 5%...I open the ash tray.. It was full of water.. Perfect spent all my money on this boiler and has sprang a leak in just under 3 months... What should I be doing at this point.

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HeatMaster / any heatmaster owners on here from thunder bay

« on: December 08, 2014, 04:44:21 PM »

Just wondering if anyone on the forum is from thunder bay Ontario...just installed a mf5000 in my home and am wondering how your running in this climate..

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / just thinking...would I conserve wood if?

« on: December 08, 2014, 04:34:01 PM »

Have a heatmaster mf5000..with terribly insulated lines..would I save wood if my recirculation pump only ran when there was a call for heat from my furnace...was just thinking the whole time my house is up to temp..I'm continually recirculating water to the house and back...lossing valuable heat to the ground. Thanks for any help

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Plumbing / Help with one cold room

« on: December 02, 2014, 06:38:38 AM »

I currently have a heatmaster mf5000...connected to a forced air furnace that is heating my home great.. Only problem is I have  one extremely cold Room my living room is always cold.. It's a sunk in room two steps down from the main house with a crawl space underneath.. It feels as tho all the cold air is sinking from the main house to this room. Would love to add some under floor heating in this room.. Someone has suggested to me to cut into the main boiler return line and tee off a loop with a small rec. Pump and run a single pex loop under the floor of this room then tee back into the main boiler return line about 20 past the original boiler return tee.
Would this setup work.. Or would I be wasting my time.. My hope is not to really heat the room.. Just warm it up a little.. As the room already has the forced air furnace heating it.

Thanks for all the help

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Plumbing / Sidearm question

« on: September 29, 2014, 08:51:35 PM »

I have the following sidearm installation and for the life of me have no idea what's going on... If I turn the valve on at the top of the sidearm even with a full tank of hot water all I get out of my fixtures is pure cold water. Diagram is the same as install exactly.. Last year I was going to install sidearm into the pressure relief valve on side of tank to see if things would get better but have been told since my sidearm is as tall as my tank the water going up then back down to pressure release . Valve the thermal action will not take place.. Sidearm is working and will fill the tank with hot water.. My problem is that I just can't get the water out of the tank to use it.. Some how the cold water feed from the bottom is finding a easier path to my faucets.. I have read about some anti siphon valve in the tank on the hot water outlet.. Could this b the cause of my problem... Thanks for all the help.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Wasser Pump anyone

« on: September 27, 2014, 07:56:48 PM »

Had a Wasser Gpd25-10sf on my old boiler that sprang a leak..Pump ran with reduced water for a day.  I think it was ruined in the process as I have plugged it in briefly (few seconds) will not start on speed 1 or speed 2...on speed 3 which is high it will run for about 5 seconds then it sounds like it locks up..So to make a long story short I think I need a new pump...Should i buy the same Wasser pump locally which I believe I paid 260 or buy something better like a Grundfos 26-99 three speed. 
thanks for the help

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Plumbing / sidearm..will it work if

« on: September 27, 2014, 07:42:58 PM »

In the process of installing new heatmaster owb...want to get my sidearm working.  The sidearm was in the house when I bought it and has never worked.   I plan on re plumbing it into the pressure relief valve with a TEE fitting.. My question is the side arm heater is as tall as the hot water heater so water will have to travel up the sidearm then will drop about 8 inches back down to the pressure relief tee I install...Is that fine...also I seem to be finding mixed info on the boiler port connections...Mine has been installed with the supply on the bottom and the return on the top. thanks for all the help

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Owb working fine.. Should I make changes

« on: December 16, 2013, 05:20:39 PM »

K.. Thanks for all the input.. Just bumped the boiler to 180...ill see how it goes.. Just checked my thermostat... My blower ran 20hours 12mins. Yesterday with the boiler set at 170..the house set at 21c..average outdoor temp.. Was - 18..

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Owb working fine.. Should I make changes

« on: December 16, 2013, 03:13:57 PM »

Totally new to the owb world.. It's been a week of - 20 to - 30 weather here and the old wood boiler is keeping the house warm..But the furnace fan blowing across the heat exchanger is running about 20 hours a day.. I have the aquastat set at 170..is there any advantage to turn it any higher.. This boiler is extremely old.. Want it to last the whole winter if I turned it up to 180 would it hurt it in any way.. Is it safer for longevity reason to run it at a cooler temp.. As I stated it's heating the house fine just burning lots of wood.  Thanks for any help or insight.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: It's cold out there

« on: December 13, 2013, 07:07:38 AM »

I really know nothing about the Dahl except for the info on the front of the stove... And the fact that it's burning a ton of wood.. But hey its —38c and my house is warm..

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Checking temperature

« on: December 12, 2013, 03:25:35 PM »

Just found out the same thing.. Boiler is at around 160 on the gauge... Reading 155 with none contact gun.. But only 120 on the exposed pipe coming out of boiler.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Checking temperature

« on: December 12, 2013, 08:28:19 AM »

Hey.. Want to find out my temp drop on my under ground lines.. I have no gauges  on the lines. If I get one of those none contact temp guns will it work alright for reading boiler inlet and outlet temps.. If I take a reading off the metal couplings that couple the pex to the hard piping.. Thanks for the help.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: It's cold out there

« on: December 12, 2013, 07:57:05 AM »

Been - 20 during the day time highs and - 30at night for the last week straight.. First year using a owb.. Can already see my wood pile is no going to last the whole winter.. Not a good feeling