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Earth Outdoor Wood Furnaces / Re: Earth vs. Shaver?
« on: February 09, 2012, 02:04:47 AM »
One thing I found with an Earth is you got a massive amount of water to heat which takes more fuel and the 2 things cooling this water is heating your house and the weather outside. With this Rancher I have I looked at the insulation and I have 2 inches between the firebox and the cold weather and it's not even a full sheet, it's about 13 inch wide panels stuffed between the framework on the stove so that's where some of the heat goes, As far as the half inch thick firebox, I never really hit the side, I hit the chimney that sticks halfway down into the firebox, kind of limits the size of logs I through in there but yeah you can put alot of wood in there as long as there's no fire rolling out the front, in my case I have no problem with since with the '09 model I have the fire goes out every time I shut the door and so when I feel the need to put wood in there there's no fire to hit me in the face, I rebuild my fire quite a bit. This has something to do with the air flow being the vent blower is built in behind the stove,blowing air into the ashpit,not into the firebox, but I'm sure they've corrected that problem.
As far as effencieny goes, I talked to a guy that has one of these and he says he goes through 6 cords a year so thats one thing you need to do no matter which stove you buy , see how much wood you'll go through and they'll all give you the burn time, temperature settings speach, how warm you keep your housewhat type of wood but we have a gas heater, gas stove, gas water heater and gas dryer and we used about a tank a year, around 800 bucks so if you cut your own wood thats great but if you run outta places to cut and have to travel , then buy, that could run into some bucks. I've got my own wood but when I rebuild a fire as often as I do I waste alot of wood , after all 230 gallons of water on the othet side of a half inch steel wall takes awhile to heat on a cold night with very little insulation.
As far as dealers go, the only one around here that I know of doesn't carry replacement parts , when the pump went out the company shipped it supposedly next day but it took a week to get here ground delivery and when the electronic temperature control quit working that took a week , but that was delivered a couple hours north of me instead, I couldn't go pick it up so it had to be reshipped.
So all these things should be considered, parts fail, can you get a replacement on a cold winter night , even though the firebox will last a lifetime, will you be able to use it. Effeniency covers alot of ground, I just got done rebuilding my fire again,it's 3 am and I should be asleep. Don't talk to salesmen, talk to owners
As far as effencieny goes, I talked to a guy that has one of these and he says he goes through 6 cords a year so thats one thing you need to do no matter which stove you buy , see how much wood you'll go through and they'll all give you the burn time, temperature settings speach, how warm you keep your housewhat type of wood but we have a gas heater, gas stove, gas water heater and gas dryer and we used about a tank a year, around 800 bucks so if you cut your own wood thats great but if you run outta places to cut and have to travel , then buy, that could run into some bucks. I've got my own wood but when I rebuild a fire as often as I do I waste alot of wood , after all 230 gallons of water on the othet side of a half inch steel wall takes awhile to heat on a cold night with very little insulation.
As far as dealers go, the only one around here that I know of doesn't carry replacement parts , when the pump went out the company shipped it supposedly next day but it took a week to get here ground delivery and when the electronic temperature control quit working that took a week , but that was delivered a couple hours north of me instead, I couldn't go pick it up so it had to be reshipped.
So all these things should be considered, parts fail, can you get a replacement on a cold winter night , even though the firebox will last a lifetime, will you be able to use it. Effeniency covers alot of ground, I just got done rebuilding my fire again,it's 3 am and I should be asleep. Don't talk to salesmen, talk to owners
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Earth Outdoor Wood Furnaces / Re: ordered mine
« on: December 07, 2011, 10:37:49 PM »
All this has is a blower on the back that goes through to the ash pit, above that is a quarter inch piece of sheet metal with an opening up front by the door, about16 by 16 inches roughly. The fire area is around 36 by 36 inches, 36 deep for sure and the only opening for air to acces the fire is the opening up front.The chimney sticks down in the burn area about maybe 16 inches which the burn area is about 30 something inches high maybe. Theres a solenoid on the blower in the back that opens when the blower kicks on when it call for more air, it runs constantly, never reaches the programmed temp of 170.
I really dont see how air will find its way from the back of the stove beneath the burn area up to the front of the stove, find the 16 inch opening, go up and backtrack back to the fire and have enough force to fan the fire to get it going enough to generate enough heat to warm up a half inch thick boiler plate and have enough heat to then start to boil water to 170 degrees. My guess is theres not enough air, and with the chimney sticking down half the height of the stove burn area maybe the fire chokes out from smoke. I just got in from rebulding it again, it's 11 30 pm,I went through this all last winter and it looks like i'm starting it again, i 've used seasoned wood, fresh cut wood, small, big, kindling, anything thatd burn, I've had it packed but this will not generate heat. I'm just looking for someone who owns one of these that can give me some advice on this or a dealer who felt this was a good enough product over all the others to sell
I really dont see how air will find its way from the back of the stove beneath the burn area up to the front of the stove, find the 16 inch opening, go up and backtrack back to the fire and have enough force to fan the fire to get it going enough to generate enough heat to warm up a half inch thick boiler plate and have enough heat to then start to boil water to 170 degrees. My guess is theres not enough air, and with the chimney sticking down half the height of the stove burn area maybe the fire chokes out from smoke. I just got in from rebulding it again, it's 11 30 pm,I went through this all last winter and it looks like i'm starting it again, i 've used seasoned wood, fresh cut wood, small, big, kindling, anything thatd burn, I've had it packed but this will not generate heat. I'm just looking for someone who owns one of these that can give me some advice on this or a dealer who felt this was a good enough product over all the others to sell
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Earth Outdoor Wood Furnaces / Re: ordered mine
« on: December 07, 2011, 10:13:30 PM »
everything's running, the fans running 24 hours a day, the pump runs 24 hours a day and the central air blower runs constantly, the chimney isn't clogged , the solenoid works, the temp has been reset to 170 to ease up on it so that maybe it will reach the shutoff temp. Once it leaves the 170 and starts to drop because of heat loss in the house it never reagins temp again, a constant drop. I did notice the ash pileup on the solid sheet steel inside where the fire is was smothering my coals. Seems the only time I get a good fire is when I have the door open butthen I get a heat loss, shut the door and temp starts to rise until the fire goes out. Did I mention what brand this is, it's the Rancher 360 from Earth Wood furnaces. I'm looking for someone who has one of these so maybe I can get these problems fixed
thanks
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Earth Outdoor Wood Furnaces / Re: ordered mine
« on: December 07, 2011, 04:02:40 PM »
Well good luck with yours, I've had nothing but problems with the company and with the stove, if we're talking about an Earth wood furnace from Mountain Grove ,Mo.
I was hoping to find someone else who had bought one and maybe get some ideas on how to keep the fire burning after the door's shut and how to keep the water temp from dropping . I can't seem to keep enough wood in it. I build a fire before work, I build a fire after work and I build a fire in the middle of the night. What coals don't smolder away the wood and let the fire go out the ashes amother the coals and then the fire goes out anyway.
This is my second winter, my furnace is about 3 years old, got it Nov '09 and didnt get it in till the following year but maybe they made some improvements since then, thats what I'm looking for, some way to keep the heat up
I was hoping to find someone else who had bought one and maybe get some ideas on how to keep the fire burning after the door's shut and how to keep the water temp from dropping . I can't seem to keep enough wood in it. I build a fire before work, I build a fire after work and I build a fire in the middle of the night. What coals don't smolder away the wood and let the fire go out the ashes amother the coals and then the fire goes out anyway.
This is my second winter, my furnace is about 3 years old, got it Nov '09 and didnt get it in till the following year but maybe they made some improvements since then, thats what I'm looking for, some way to keep the heat up
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