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jdruhnke

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Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« on: March 09, 2015, 04:04:49 PM »

I purchased a boiler (P&M Ultimizer 3444)! Now to start planning everything else.

The Portage and Main dealer i'm buying the furnace through is out of Mankato, MN.  He sells Rehau 1", and i've seen good reviews about the brand.  He sells it for $12 a ft and $11 if it's over 300ft.  I'm guessing I will only need around 150ft.  A friend of mine also needs to buy some and both of us together would be buying around $450ft

I'd like to buy everything through my P&M dealer to make things easier but if i can find pipe through someone else for a better price i'd strongly consider it if it's rated decent.

Has anyone come out with some kind or chart or rating scale comparing all the insulated pex lines with the R-value and Price? or at least a list from 'best' to 'worst'?

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New INFO for this topic:
I made some measurements last night.  To the house it's about 80ft, to the Shop it's about 25 ft.  I have not figured in any 'extra' that i would need for the install yet.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 04:37:13 PM »

I'm using Rehau right now with good results.  With good trench preparation, a good quality 3 or 5 wrap would perform great.  If you go this route I would recommend Z-Supply. 
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 06:00:24 PM »

http://www.freeheat4u.com/REHAU-1-INCH-INSULATED-FOAM-FILLED-UNDERGROUND-PIPE_p_41.html   yup that's a good line....    its 8.99 a foot in my link

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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 07:26:14 PM »

http://www.freeheat4u.com/REHAU-1-INCH-INSULATED-FOAM-FILLED-UNDERGROUND-PIPE_p_41.html   yup that's a good line....    its 8.99 a foot in my link

After shipping you might be pretty close to the dealers price.
I believe they will only ship that to a designated loading dock.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 09:21:45 PM »

I think it's usually around $1 per foot for shipping.  They will ship anywhere but it's cheaper if they ship to a business. 
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2015, 09:37:56 PM »

On your Rehau, is it true 1" or Pex 1"? There is a difference.

I went with Logstor for the flow, it's metric but figures out a little bigger than 1" id. Depending on your heat load a smaller line could really hamstring your setup.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2015, 05:30:28 AM »

Rehau makes 3 versions
1" 8.99/ft
32mm 9.99/ft
1 1/4   10.99/ft
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 05:37:25 AM »

Thats not a bad price for the 1 1/4".
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 06:23:03 AM »

I bought my 5 wrap from them. Paid 3.69/ ft for 1" and they use rehau pipe in theirs. 1 of 2 types of pex that will go in my house, Rehau and Uponor.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 11:25:56 AM »

I'm using Flexul-seal Insulated pipe. Here is a cool chart

http://www.flexsulseal.com/performance.php
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 09:18:43 PM »

Rehau is a good option. It can't waterlog like other types, but it is really hard to bend. If you want something more flexible, try 6-wrap foil insulation.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2015, 04:13:39 AM »

I used the 1 inch logstor and bought it from my dealer, I paid 12.50 a foot, but that was in Canada and things tend yo cost a bit more here.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2015, 04:29:21 AM »

I rented a house that had a boiler and the lines were only 40 feet long, but the snow always melted and the ground was thawed. I decided to spend the money for Logstor and have no regrets.
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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2015, 09:31:05 AM »

they need to show U values   and not  R 's ....how it works as a system > not the best r u can get at said items "thickest" point ...

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Re: Insulated Pex comparison chart?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 11:17:09 AM »

A friend of mine bought 5 wrap from the dealer he bought his stove from.  After it was all installed, it filled with ground water up to the top of ground level.  So, from his boiler to where it comes up through basement floor, is about 150 feet of underground line all full of water.

Apparently, there was a hole somewhere in the outer jacket and after some hard rain it completely filled up the tile around the pex and 5 wrap.  Now what?  Well we came up with a solution but what a PITA.

Therefore, the next time I buy pipe it will be closed cell foam filled.
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