Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Fire Wood => Topic started by: kommandokenny on January 24, 2015, 08:01:18 AM
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Searched,,Could not find anything on the consumption of wood,,comparing to what people are heating.
There was a post started in the gen discussions .
It got sidetracked by how cheap wood was compared to oil .
Anyway, lots of people come on here to check,, before buying a OWB.
A guy that just wants to heat his house gets mixed up by someone burning 20 cords heating a farm or stadium.
So..reply with what your heating and how much wood u use.
Include type of wood and other details that affect your wood consumption.not how much money u save! O0
My deal is 1600 ft bungalo with basement, Dhw, 70 ft loop of 1" pex, North Central Ontario.
6 months = 5 or 6 bush cords,maple and ash
May be we can get an average so people can get an idea if they are running efficiently
Cord is 4x8x4 feet or 128 cubic feet
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1400 sq. ranch with 800 sq. ft finished in walkout basement. DHW, 140ft loop of 1"pex, Central Michigan, only 2 months of usage under my belt and averaging approx 1 bush cord of white ash per month.
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2200 sq.ft house with full finished basement heated to 72. 1200 sq.ft 3 door garage heated to 45-50. All well insulated. DHW, boiler is 60 feet from house. I heat from Oct 1 to first week of May and I live in Manitoba, Canada. My unit is a heatmaster 5000E and I use 12-15 cords of wood (which is 80%oak) a season. :thumbup:
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I'm heating 2400 sq ft walkout basement and 2400sq ft main level all with indoor heat. Also heating dhw. Stove is fifteen feet from the house. Also heating a 3,000 sq ft shop infloor heat with 16' high ceilings. Also heating dhw in the shop. Shop is 200' from the boiler. Shop is at 64,house is at 70. Heating with a Heatmaster 20,000e and burning strictly green oak. I'm gonna burn around 17 cord this year sept-April.
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I am heating around 6,000 feet, 3000 of which you could throw a cat out through (my Shop) I typically would burn 35+ full cord of 4 foot green wood mixed in my old conventional Wood Doctor 14,000 Last year I burned chips and last week I started a test on a new nozzle for the Optimizer 250 by P+M, surprisingly enough so far the 250 is doing the job, last 7 days here in Maine have been normal with overnight lows in the single digits and highs near freezing, about 2/3 of a cord gone so far
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For cost of mixed gas and bar oil and fuel for the skidsteer 35 cord for 6,000 sq ft you might want to look into lp...or insulation. I realize you understand heating systems but how about building envelopes?!?! 35 cord for 6000 sq ft is ridiculous.
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this is getting exciting :thumbup:
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Central Ontario; 1400 sq ft older farmhouse + 700 sq ft shop (loops 165 ft and 90 ft respectively - single circulator). 6 to 7 full chords early October to late April.
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2200 sq ft house no dhw.using 300 gallon storage tank.
had no tank last year and burned about 20 cord of 20 inch wood
in southern quebec.last year was nasty while this year has been cold but less snow then last
makes a difference.snow around a foundation and some on the roof really protects from the wind
i usually shovel some snow up against the cement just to hold some heat in
anyhow i`m on track to burn about 14 to 15 cord this year with half being junk wood(softwood poplar etc)
and some punky stuff
the other half is decent beech maple cherry ash birch whatever.
burn from 1st sept to mid may
i`d love to be able to burn 5 or 6 cord a year.
those southern folk have got it made :thumbup:
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30 below zero as I type!!! Rite now heating a 1200sqfoot shop 10'/12' walls, 2x8 r30 walls, triple pane windows w/gas, r60 in ceiling, 6' atv door, 12' truck door and 2 man doors... 1000' up on what can be a windy ridge/hill top ! 2.20 cords since 4 oct =70 degs slab heat (and I got 12x44 of covered space on each side to! do ya like how I hid the tall walls with the "wings" of 4" lap siding ! ...u can tell where the ceiling really is by the motion lite height ! :D ) (http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/atvalaska/IMG_0908.jpg)
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Sluggo, you would have to understand my shop, first it was built as a big toy box that was not to be heated, if it were I would have done in slab radiant and insulated it all well including perimeter walls, The wood is all Boise Cascade laminated products that were hauled home from my job where I delivered those products to job sites, if they were refused for any reason, it was company policy to destroy the product. I had 7 tractor trailer loads on my back yard at one time, we used the I joists standing up as walls so insulating it would not have been easy, we wrapped it all with a layer of lumber wrap inside and out, sheet rocked and vinyl sided it then hung everything you can imagine on the walls. Was it the right way to go for everybody, Heck no but I ended up with a shop that my friends and I can feel confident that when we need to repair or fabricate something we can do it ourselves, they all typically help with the processing of the wood, watch the stove when I'm gone etc etc. Did I mention how much that shop cost me to put up, I have about $12,000 dollars into the concrete, siding, shingles and wiring, everything else for materials was donated, I as well as my friends are pretty happy with it over the past 15 years, Oh and I almost forgot to tell you about the second floor, we have 2 pool tables set up there that I do pretty well on $. I'm 52 years old, IF I ever build another shop, I can hopefully afford to do it the right way but for now, what I have works very well, perhaps not efficient but Definitely very effective!
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2200 sq ft house no dhw.using 300 gallon storage tank.
had no tank last year and burned about 20 cord of 20 inch wood
i :thumbup:
Just to be sure we're all on the same page,,, a cord is 4x 8 x 4 ft deep
Don't want to get off topic here, but there is always some mix up that.
No matter how ya stack it it has to come out to 128 cubic feet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_%28unit%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_%28unit%29)
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my cord is 4x8x16 inches so i guess that would mean i burn 5 of your cords
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4200 sq ft house high ceilings open floor plan! On top of a hill open to a ridge 14-18 cords not face cord usually start burning in October shut her down in March.
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my cord is 4x8x16 inches so i guess that would mean i burn 5 of your cords
Yup, 10-4 My friend ,,,,I kinda thought when you posted 20" lengths that this cord thing was gonna rear it's ugly head :bash:
I think most of the posts are pretty close to the same,, wood to /sq.ft ratio.
We gotta all be using the same measurments or forget it.
Cords are a whole other thread! :bash:
kk
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use cubic feet, how high x depth x length ..that's how I got my 2.20 all my stuff is in the round ..I don't even own a splitter , well ok... I do have a maul and a wife...so in a sense I do .....
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yup,everyone does it different.15 cord of 20 inch is roughly 5, 4x4x8 cord
gotta use that measurement to make this work
but around here we always measure wood 4x4x16in for firewood
thats just how its sold
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This whole cord thing is really irritating me. A gallon is a gallon. A liter is a liter. A a CORD is a CORD. 4'x4'x8' is a CORD. A FACE CORD is 16"x4'x8' or 1/3 of a cord. No debate,it is what it is. People that don't know the difference are only confusing people on here.
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Cord is 4x8x4 feet or 128 cubic feet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_%28unit%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_%28unit%29)
I should of spelled out the cord thing better.
As far as Wikipedia and the two governments are concerned there is no such thing as a face cord.
Anyway, someone can start a cord thread I'm not O0
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According to the USDA:
(http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5328581.pdf)
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all I see is a black x .....that's also what I think of the usda !
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Yep, It got turned into a cord thing, oh well. :bash:
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This whole cord thing is really irritating me. A gallon is a gallon. A liter is a liter. A a CORD is a CORD. 4'x4'x8' is a CORD. A FACE CORD is 16"x4'x8' or 1/3 of a cord. No debate,it is what it is. People that don't know the difference are only confusing people on here.
exactly...legally there is no such thing as "face cords"
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sorry guys no offence :(.lets move on this is actually interesting,epecially when u got homebuilds pitted
against factory builds.really helps to see if homebrewers are building right
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4000 sq ft house with r28 walls, r60 ceiling, dhw, 1200 sq ft garage with 10.5 ft ceiling, r21 walls and r50 ceiling. House is sealed really well, good windows. Bl3444 heats it well (73 in house, 65 in the garage), and I burn 1 full cord of hardwoods in 2 weeks; about .07 cords per day. I throw in some junk wood when it warms up into the 30s, but it's been pretty constant with the hardwoods which I cut 24" long and don't split unless it's about 24" in diameter as I can't wrestle those big ones into the stove.
Needless to say, very happy with the stoves performance.
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sorry guys no offence :(.lets move on this is actually interesting,epecially when u got homebuilds pitted
against factory builds.really helps to see if homebrewers are building right
10-4 Duke,,
thanks!! :post:
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4000 sq ft house with r28 walls, r60 ceiling, dhw, 1200 sq ft garage with 10.5 ft ceiling, r21 walls and r50 ceiling. House is sealed really well, good windows. Bl3444 heats it well (73 in house, 65 in the garage), and I burn 1 full cord of hardwoods in 2 weeks; about .07 cords per day. I throw in some junk wood when it warms up into the 30s, but it's been pretty constant with the hardwoods which I cut 24" long and don't split unless it's about 24" in diameter as I can't wrestle those big ones into the stove.
Needless to say, very happy with the stoves performance.
So thats about 12 cords a season for 5200 sq ft.
Interesting about not splitting the wood to dry out
Don't want to get off topic, but I split and season, everything right down to 6 inches.
Maybe some math whiz can get an average or ratio of how many chords to sq.ft per season .
I'm trying to figure something out .[spent a lot of time in high school :o]
Any ideas??
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Interesting about not splitting the wood to dry out
Don't want to get off topic, but I split and season, everything right down to 6 inches.
Maybe some math whiz can get an average or ratio of how many chords to sq.ft per season .
I'm trying to figure something out .[spent a lot of time in high school :o]
Any ideas??
The hardwoods were a semi load of 8' logs I bought since I didn't know how much wood I'd use (new home construction) and I didn't have time to cut them up before the snow fell, or build a shelter to put them in. I doubt I'll ever split to season. So now I pry the iced up and snow covered logs apart from each other, cut the logs into 2' pieces, and haul/stack them inside the garage to melt the snow and ice. I doubt I'll ever split to season. When I measure the moisture it's anywhere from 15-30%. Close enough in my book.
This summer I'll have a shelter and all the wood cut and stacked before the snow flies. It'll be a much easier winter next year.
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1400 main ranch-1000 basement 8 foot celings (r60 in attic)
r-19 walls( spray foam green wrap in summer)
house is very drafty
temp inside 71-72
DMH
wood burner is 25 feet from house.
total pile is around 10 cord hardwood
burned around 1 cord of poplar in october
at this rat i will be around 6-7 cord 128cubic feet of wood.
Wood is all split and stacked.
i expect less next year after windows foam and wrap.
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Yep you could probably knock a chord or two off that with more insulation.
Where are you??? avg outside temp??
kk
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3800 sq ft Colonial in Connecticut. 150ft run from the house. approx. 15 cord for the season Oct-April. House is 70 degrees. Pool is going on the Woodmaster in April this year so anticipating burning more.
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I got the same stove [4400] heating a total main floor and basement area of 3200sq ft. on 5 or 6 4x8x4' cords.
And it's colder here????????? near north Ontario.
Kinda strange,, are you burning hard wood [128 cubic feet]??
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KK,I just ran some quick math. To make your setup look more astonishing we will go with your stated "5 cords /year". That's 15 face cords / 7 months. Roughly 1 face cord/2weeks. 1/4 face cord per 3.5 days or 1/16th of a face cord per day. Being generous and for easy math that's 3 cubic feet of wood per day or roughly (1)14" roundx3'long to heat your house for 24 hours.
!!!!ATNN EVERYONE!!!! I've got a brand new Heatmaster 20,000e I will trade straight up for a Woodmaster 4400
I wish I could get by on that little of wood!
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century old 1 1/2 story home that I have added a couple of rooms to and reinsulated and added new windows. All in all this home is now fairly well insulated in my opinion
basement is heated as well
basement is 1600 square feet
1st floor is 1600 square feet
second floor is 1000 square feet
42 hundred total if that's how you count it? (plus domestic hot water for just me and the wife)
I live 20 miles south of Lake huron and 30 miles east of port Huron Michigan (yep, Canada eh)
I normally burn around 10 cords of mixed dead wood of elm and ash (some that comes from the forest floor and would be considered junk and is punky)
home made stove
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Sluggo
If I embellished it a bit in your mind,, sorry 8)
It was an guesstimate based on my usage for the last season and part of this season.
Your setup is different,, you burn more?
Slim burns more also??
Not everyone is gonna burn what you consider to be the right amount of wood.
It has not been two full seasons for us,,,and the totals are rough.
We heat for 6 months not 7 and use 5 or 6 cords of wood.
A cord a month[ rough] ,,more in Jan.,, less in April.
I had roughly 6 cords piled and it's half burned.
I did not mic the pile
Thats Nov Dec Jan so 3 mo. left
Right now we are -25 c /10f I'm putting in two heaping wheel barrows a 24 hour period.
-25 and 1 heaping wheelbarrow goes an easy 12 hours.
I'm still on track to burn 6 cords by late April.
If it's more I will post it. :bag:
kk
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1400 sq. ranch with 800 sq. ft finished in walkout basement. DHW, 140ft loop of 1"pex, Central Michigan, only 2 months of usage under my belt and averaging approx 1 bush cord of white ash per month.
Sluggo
Shreks numbers are similar and in line with what I'm burning.
I use all seasoned hard woods,,lots of maple.
As a side note, which is probably a contributor factor to the wood consumption ,my DHW was not in the mix, until yesterday.
My owb went directly to my FFF with a side loop to my DHWT ...it did not work properly [it assisted] until We switched out the plate for a sidearm.
Consumption may go up due to this.????
Sluggo you did not post your usage,, just picked at others?? ;)
kk
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KK, I have never used a side arm but I would think you are correct with the constant circulation and use more wood but dont think it is going to amount to a significatn amout, do you?
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Shrek
No not much more, but I'm trying to get my guestimate of 5 to 6 cords,, to add up.
The way these things are supposedly plumbed is,, OWB to DHW, and then to your FFF ,,and back,, making a single circuit.
Mine has a separate DHW circuit, off the main loop .
It did not work well and only warmed the DW .[with 10 plate x]
We swapped in a sidearm and it's Xmas,, lottsa, real hot water. :thumbup:
The single loop, as above, through the DHW may take extra wood depending on your hot water usage??
My main 1" pex loop does not go directly into the DHW.
KK
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Interesting, my loop goes right to the 30 plate hx and then to the forced air furnace water to air hx. Earlier today I ran the hot water for a few minutes then checked the water temp into and out of the DHW hx and found that when a large demand is there it takes nearly 15 degrees out of the boiler water. I was surprised but normally the demand for both at the same time is hit or miss and the house stays at 72-73. I definitely have no complaints. Actually had to start loading less wood this week as temp were in the low 30s. Was not gettting a good burn, leaving alot of "lump charcoal".
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Interesting, my loop goes right to the 30 plate hx and then to the forced air furnace water to air hx. Earlier today I ran the hot water for a few minutes then checked the water temp into and out of the DHW hx and found that when a large demand is there it takes nearly 15 degrees out of the boiler water. I was surprised.
So, if things are plumbed in a single circuit, as yours is, you may consume a little extra wood.
Not saying this is why I seem to burn a little less than average, but could be a factor.
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2500 sq feet that is cellar and living space all radiant heat plus a attic that stays at 65ish. 2x4 walls, new windows, doors, insulation and caulking. We keep the house 78-82 degrees and the bathroom hot enough so you almost pass out when you poop. I started out about 15 to 17 cord a year when we first moved in 07. Put all new everything in this house and a new run of logstor in 2 years ago. I am looking at 8-9 cord this year. Next year will be better will have all seasoned wood for the fist time I have 23 cord in the yard and 30 trees or more that are blow-downs from the hurricane last year plus I will have the cellar finished. It just keeps getting better.
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Are you SURE it's the heat that is making you want to pass out?
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so you almost pass out when you poop.
Bud and Chili will do that!!
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The way my wood is going down now,, I may have to raise my consumption estimate from 5/6 to 6/ 7
I'm using double what I was in NOV/Dec but March is around the corner.
Sorry for any confusion.[or embellishment] it was not intended
kk
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"""We keep the house 78-82 degrees""" OMG!!! ..... O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING!!!!
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Old farm house, if its windy and Cold I can easily burn a full cord a week. 3000sqft. Wind is really the big factor... It can be 10 degrees and burn the same wood as 30 degrees with high winds
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Yep,,,,,,,,,,, I guess wind is like a giant fan cooling things down!
So many contributing factors ehh!!
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1600 sq. ft ranch full finished basement. Boiler is 50 ft. from house, we burn from
September to May. Burning green oak we go through 8 full cord in a season. house is always between 75 and 78 degrees. From Northern wisconsin.
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=more dead people in northern WI......
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1600 sq. ft ranch full finished basement. Boiler is 50 ft. from house, we burn from
September to May. Burning green oak we go through 8 full cord in a season. house is always between 75 and 78 degrees. From Northern wisconsin.
Cord a month ^-^ same here exactly :thumbup:
What stove av ya got???,, and does it go through your DHWT first, or a separate circuit
That wood may be a key also??
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Warmed up ;D,, to 5/10 f.,, back to a wheelbarrow a day 8)
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E-classic 2300. In 5th year heating well insulated 2000 sq. feet plus dhw. Have stayed consistent each year between 8 and 10 cord of mixed hardwoods. In a cold year like this, I'll go through a cord every 2 weeks in Jan. and Feb. From what friends in the heating business tell me, it's the dhw that really sucks out the btus.
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Go Leafs go. :bash:
Where bouts are you located, Hockey?????
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Go canadiens go! :D
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Go canadiens go! :D
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Go Leafs go. :bash:
Where bouts are you located, Hockey?????
Do we have to get into this here? :D I'm in Central N.H. and a lifelong Bruins fan. Not real happy with the way things are going this year, but then again the hockeygods granted me my one wish in 2011! :thumbup: I call no bashing from Habs fans.
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Any MN Wild fans here? spent half my life on the rink and can't get enough hockey! tough start for the Wild but we're climbing our way back up!
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Great start for Leafs butttttttttttttttt yikes
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I live in southern Ontario, Canada , on the Michigan boarder. This is my first year with my pm 2840. My own is 110 feet from house, so my total piping is around 250 feet. My house is just under 4000 feet and we are heating my DHW for 5 people, three are kids and they use a lots of hot water.the house is 12 years old and insulated well. I leave out in the open and north wind can be a killer and big drain on heat.
I turned on the boiler on nov. 7 and so far we have burned about 12 face cords of mixed wood, all seasoned. I'm guessing I will burn 15 to 17 face cords a year.
I'm planning of stock poling 20 to 25 cords for next winter to be safe.
I need snow to melt to allow me to keep cutting, I have around 7 cords cut for next year.
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Any MN Wild fans here? spent half my life on the rink and can't get enough hockey! tough start for the Wild but we're climbing our way back up!
I'm obviously a wild fan Brad!
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7 cords=21 face cords= you are set for next year
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More good mileage ;D
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She's suckin er up now.
-40 this morning and the wheelbarrow load I put in at 6 pm last night was ready to flame out at 8:00 am this morning.
No more sleeping in till noon ;D until this -40 crap goes away[/b] ;D ;)
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Kommandokenny, your lucky to get that kind of burn times! This unit we have (which will not be here anther winter) used 7 wheelbarrow loads yesterday, not as cold as you either. Loaded it up completely full at 9:00 last night, two wheelbarrow loads, couldn't put another stick in, before 6:00 a.m this morning temperature was way down, just a small bed of coals left looking for more wood. Temperature here was a balmy -20 fahrenheit,no wind either. Our old Empyre liked it's wood, but at least it could handle the load for the night on less wood.
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Yep,, that's what this thread is about.
You can see how your consumption adds up.
There have been some small amounts [contested] ;) large amounts wood burned.
I think the cold is the biggest factor for me.
No wind here, to speak of,, and I'm not heating much.
Fella that sold me the stove recommended 4400 over the smaller one they sell.
I said more wood???,, and we're not heating much ,,,,he said trust me :thumbup:
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Kommandokenny, your lucky to get that kind of burn times! This unit we have (which will not be here anther winter) used 7 wheelbarrow loads yesterday, not as cold as you either. Loaded it up completely full at 9:00 last night, two wheelbarrow loads, couldn't put another stick in, before 6:00 a.m this morning temperature was way down, just a small bed of coals left looking for more wood. Temperature here was a balmy -20 fahrenheit,no wind either. Our old Empyre liked it's wood, but at least it could handle the load for the night on less wood.
Mr maple can I ask how much area you are heating and what kind of pipes are underground?
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I'm heating 2400 sq ft walkout basement and 2400sq ft main level all with indoor heat. Also heating dhw. Stove is fifteen feet from the house. Also heating a 3,000 sq ft shop infloor heat with 16' high ceilings. Also heating dhw in the shop. Shop is 200' from the boiler. Shop is at 64,house is at 70. Heating with a Heatmaster 20,000e and burning strictly green oak. I'm gonna burn around 17 cord this year sept-April.
Sorry bud!! I did not see this... my bad :bag:
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my ridgewood 600 stove is heating my drafty 1970 ranch house just fine. Was -12 last night with 20mph winds.
I filled up the front of the stove full with 16 inch pieces. temp was 174 this morning at 9am (14hour burn). There were 2 pieces that werent burned because thy are on the outside endge of the stove. Raked the piece in the hot coals and checked it again at 12noon with a temp of 162.
This one works great. I was burning dry hickory 8 inch piece rounds.
love this stove, 72 degrees inside /DMH
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I'm a new OWB owner. I have a Crown Royal model 7400. I burn about 1 cord a week. Is that normal for that size boiler? My house is around 4500 sq ft log built in the late 90s. The boiler temp is 180 and coming into the house is ave 175. Just seems like a lot of wood? Thanks for any help or ideas.
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Welcome aboard John, yes that's a lot of wood but it's also a lot of house, your incoming water temp could concern me a bit if it is a short run, can you give us more info on length of pipe, what type pipe and true temps at each end?
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4500 square feet at a modest 15 btu per square foot is over 11,000,000 btu per week (at 100 percent efficiency) if we said your stove was 60% efficient (I think that is generous) we could say you would need about 17 or 18 million btu for a week. that is close to a cord of dry mixed hardwood. insulation and outside temps of course could mean more or less btu are needed per square foot
you will need to add btu for line loss as well (and as slim stated if the temps you related to your outgoing and incoming water are accurate there may be some concern with your underground lines)
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I am heating a 1750 ft house and 900 ft att garage using hwb. House built in 2001 House 72 garage 55 degrees . This is my first year with a central 1400. Boiler is 70 feet from the house with 1 in pex to the house and 1 1/4 in the house. Using a 1 1/4 50 plate heat exchanger . Burning 1 year dry all hard wood. oak, beech, white birch,maple. I am averaging about 2 cord a month.
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I'm a new OWB owner. I have a Crown Royal model 7400. I burn about 1 cord a week. Is that normal for that size boiler? My house is around 4500 sq ft log built in the late 90s. The boiler temp is 180 and coming into the house is ave 175. Just seems like a lot of wood? Thanks for any help or ideas.
Hey John,, welcome!!,
lots of good, smart guys, on here to help.[i'm just a good guy ;D
I'm curious as to where you live, temperature wise,, and are you burning a cord a week in the -20/-30 f.,,,, or is that your average????
I'm going through a lot of wood now, too,, but it's real cold-30+++
Like slim and willie elude to,,, need a bit more info.
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1898 farmhouse, 3700 sqft( basement to ridge pole). 1100 sqft garage. All at 70 degrees in central Maine, burning half cord a week with anything lower than 10 above in a Optimizer 250
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1898 farmhouse, 3700 sqft( basement to ridge pole). 1100 sqft garage. All at 70 degrees in central Maine, burning half cord a week with anything lower than 10 above in a Optimizer 250
That is phenomenal coolidge! I average going through 1/3 cord a week to heat my 1700 sq.ft. house to 73 and 800 sq.ft. basement to 60 when it's this cold.
A full cord will last about a month during an average winter.
Last year (Oct.- April) we went through about 8 1/2 cords.
Probably wont be far off that mark for this year again!
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2000 sqft. Log home heated to 73 with 900 sqft basement heated to 60 atop a mountain (windy) in western Virginia. Stove 80 ft. From home with homemade insulated lines and the stove is really similar to wood master (round firebox,heat exchanger tubes in top and smoke bypass rod for loading). Single line to dhw 20 plate then to 16x18 hx in faf. Burn 7-8 cords avg. (http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l214/AllMyExs9799/20140313_094502_zpsiyiyvqhd.jpg) (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/AllMyExs9799/media/20140313_094502_zpsiyiyvqhd.jpg.html)
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2300 sq ft. open floor design. No basement & poorly insulated crawlspace (new house; haven't had time to upgrade). Heating DHW through a plate HX with no holding tank (on-demand only). Running unlimited water @ 120 degrees when I want and heating to ~70 inside. This is my first season burning, using mostly mixed oak, elm, black cherry, and maple that's slightly seasoned in central IL.
I'm burning ~1 to 1.3 cord/month in a CB5036 on a 180' loop.
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Cord and a half so far for Feb [on 1600sq'] + basement, DHW]
Been cold -30 's C. -20's F. no letup - 20 f. again today.
It better warm up a bit, or I'm gonna run out of wood before the end of April.
Should be able to get into the bush by the end of March
Not worried, I got the saws ready to go ^-^
KK
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My run from outdoor boiler to my propane boiler is 230', 5 wrap. The temp gage at the boiler is digital and the gage inside the house is an inline gage. I also have one for out going water and it varies depending on how many circulators are running. I have 5 circulators plus after the incoming water passes those it runs thru a hanging (150,000 btu) heater with a fan and thermostat before returning to the outdoor boiler.
My usage does go up a lot when it's near 0, as much as almost 2 cord a week to when it's in the 20s or above less.
You guys are awesome. I wish I knew about this site earlier. Might bought a gasser I think is what there called. Are they worth the extra money?
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John,
I can't comment if a gasser is generally worth the extra money to others, but for me it wasn't. Cost was about 50% more for a gasser than a conventional. The appealing part of a gasser is using less wood with the higher efficiency. If I had the money I'd have done a GARN to get even more efficiency, but the drawbacks of a gasser in my mind, and why I didn't do it (besides the extra cost) is: 1) you need split and well seasoned (dry) wood for the gasser, which I didn't have time to get before needing to use the furnace, and 2) more sophisticated stuff in a gasser means more stuff to go wrong and/or fix. I don't care that the gasser takes extra time to clean all the tubes out, but I do care about what wood I can use. With my conventional, I can put in unsplit rounds of hardwood and it'll be fine. I can throw in some wet wood too, and burn up newspaper and cardboard. I don't think you can do all that with a gasser.
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John,, sounds like your heating lots.. [2 bush cords?] a week.
Whats the square footage and is it radiant, or FFF,.or both??
Where bouts are ye O0
If no one welcomed you,, I will . :thumbup:
[I;m new too .]
Great place to learn, for me.
http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=7352.0 (http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=7352.0)
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I was thinking the same thing,are you heating a city? Welcome John
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Lol, it feels like I am heating a city. 4500 sq ft log home and an attached 3 car garage. The house has baseboard heat and the garage has a hanging 150,000 btu heater with a fan. Thanks everyone for the welcome. This is a great site.
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This is my first year with an OWB. I am in Wisconsin heating 1600 sqft main floor to 70, DHW and the basement stays around 67 since none of my lines are insulated down there. House is 2x4 construction with R6 in the walls and R13 in the ceiling. I am on track to burn about 5-6 cords this year in my P&M Optimizer 250. Before I leave for work I throw in one heaping arm full, then 3 peices when I get home and another heaping arm full before bed. I am burning all seasoned hardwood cut to 18-24" and split to 4-7" diameter.
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I am on track to burn about 5-6 cords this year in my P&M Optimizer 250.
Wow,, thoze is great numbers ,,,,,,,maybe I'm not delusional after all. ;)
Is that for 6 months?
kk
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First year here as well with Opt. 250. 2400 sq. ft. (well insulated), DHW and a 1000 sq. ft. shop constructed of ICF's (radiant in floor). 2 people with house set at 70-72 and shop at 58. Started on Oct. 18 and just finished up my 5th cord. Thinking that I'll end up using about 6 1/2 cord total when I shut it down while on vacation. Location is south-eastern Vermont.
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I am on track to burn about 5-6 cords this year in my P&M Optimizer 250.
Wow,, thoze is great numbers ,,,,,,,maybe I'm not delusional after all. ;)
Is that for 6 months?
kk
I run my indoor wood furnace for a couple weeks in October when it is nice to have a little heat at night. I fired up the OWB the first week of November and plan on shutting it down end of March and using my indoor furnace again until the middle or end of April. I will burn 5-6 cords total throughout the 6 months (5 months with the OWB and ~1 month with the indoor furnace).
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This is whats left boys. yikes
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1.88 cords,, [miked]lil less than a third,, of the 6 cords, I figured I'd burn.
I was thinking of starting a pool, of a buck a guess, as to when I run out.
Whoever wants in,, bets a buck and specifies a date.
Put the buck in my Paypal acct .
When I run outta wood,, whoevers got the right day, takes the pot, or splits it with the other guessers.[no not gassers ,,,guessers] ;D
I'll post pics bi weekly to keep myself honest. ;D
This, however, won't work, as I would have to pay 30 cents on every dollar that came in.
So scrap that!!
So just for fun put in a guess.... [don't know if I can be trusted with that kinda coin anyway >:D]
kk
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March ....ah...um...well maybe...22
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Ok Bill, it's on record .
Thanks, might get the ball rolling :thumbup:
and I know you used a bunch of sophisticated math equations ;D
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Ok, I'll play. My guess is March 31. When do you typically shut her down? Sure is a bummer to see the pile dwindle down.. Happens to us all!!
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Thanks Brad,,
-35c/-30f this morning, but I'm not putting my guess in as it may sway some guys.
We shut it down at the end of April .
We use a bit of propane into May,, at night.
Also got a sun room, on the back of the house ,that warms up the whole main floor, in May.
Oh ya,,, and I'm watching the edit 's on your guesses ;D ;D ;D
kk
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April 14
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What the heck, I'll take a stab at it. Hmmmm, 1.88 cord minus last night and this am feelings.........lots of smaller pieces in there also..........I'll say April .....1st........7:30 am ......and the last piece will be .......ash......split, not a round. 8)
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Nice,,,,,,,,,,, [lol]
Ash is a good bet allright,,,,,,, someones got a good "I" for firewood
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Kenny, I will bite here, my guestimate is April 4th, final evening load.
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I expect shut down of boiler on April 20th
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You mean 4:20 for a date right, I wonder why?
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I expect shut down of boiler on April 20th
I won't shut it down, but will run out of this seasons projected wood .
I got another 2 cord, felled and bucked, in the bush, 50 yds away.
Won't be able to get to it till April
If I can't get to it,, I'll start burning the skids,, and tires,, off the scrap oldsmobile ;) ;) ;) >:D
Thanks guys .
Slim your guess?????
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4:20
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Ok, sorry,, I kinda missed that :thumbup:
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You mean 4:20 for a date right, I wonder why?
nice slim! I was gonna pick that date too but I don't think there is anyway he's gonna make it that long.
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Ok, I give,, what's going on with the 4:20 thing ??? ???
Woodmaster going out of business or sumpin??????
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420 is code for marijuana. I heard it originated at university of Michigan when the pot heads would get together after class at 4:20 to smoke.
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Thanks Bud,,, :thumbup: I grew up in the 60's/70's and that saying wasn't around then.
I'll tell ya reefer was 8)
Should of Googled it .....mmmmm,,that wasn't around either
kk
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Thanks Bud,,, :thumbup: I grew up in the 60's/70's and that saying wasn't around then.
I'll tell ya reefer was 8)
Should of Googled it .....mmmmm,,that wasn't around either
kk
Kenny wether you ment to or not I was laughing my arse off on the "bud" comment. Nice pun!
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I don't smoke the dope, 4/20 is just my cut off, funny how it coincides. Might need some after this cold feb
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kk
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Kenny wether you ment to or not I was laughing my arse off on the "bud" comment. Nice pun!
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Shrek,, that was a fluke........I'm not that sharp :bag:
60;S were hard on my mind
Glad you got a laugh out of it !!
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I don't smoke the dope, 4/20 is just my cut off, funny how it coincides. Might need some after this cold feb
Ya I got that part,thanks .
You and slim are April 20
The smokin up cue, was new to me ;)
kk
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And Slim you get another crack at the date if you like.... :thumbup: :thumbup:
kk
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Ok Slims got March 23rd . :thumbup:
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Ok, all bets are in,,, I'm not gonna make late April,,,,,,, Feb killed us
Gonna be 7 cords this winter
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I'm in the same boat KK. I ripped through another cord in the last 2 weeks. That's normal for me in mid January not March. Looks like most of us are going to see a warm up soon. :thumbup: Limping through the rest of the year.
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10-4 bud
I wood like to get into the bush, but 3 feet of snow, easy.
Went ice fishing again yesterday,,, 3 feet of ice
Three Specks
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KK
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Went to the oil furnace the past two days due to laziness and wet wood...I hate it. Makes a ton of noise and the gauge drops fast. Probably on track for about 16 cords this year heating about 7,000 sq. ft in the mid-Atlantic area. My wood is a mix of locust, cherry and whatever else the woods donate.
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Wow 7000 sf :thumbup:
I'm humbled jr wood burner
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MMMMMMMMMM, Yummy!
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Yep tasty they are.
They stocked a small lake behind the community centre .
They we're throwing them in one hole,,, and me and a buddy, were horsin them out of another.
A couple a real sportsmen ;D
1500 mature fish went in .
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Just hit 40f.
Down to a wheelbarrow a day now ...........gonna make April,,,, yee hhaaaa
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With this onset of warm weather (47 degrees today and possibly into the 50's tomorrow) my wood usage has fallen quite a lot. Now, I only put 5 pieces in the OWB for 12 hours. I will certainly make it into April and perhaps hit May if I need to keep it running that late in the season. Man, I went through some kind of wood late January, through February and a few days into March. I'm itching to get on my motorcycle again. Gotta wait a while long I guess. Roger
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Man, I went through some kind of wood late January, through February and a few days into March. I'm itching to get on my motorcycle again. Gotta wait a while long I guess. Roger
10-4 Roger Feb killed my wood...and ....".Gentlemen start your engines"
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summer???? no not yet !! I still want to play on my 800rmk = high marking !
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main floor approx. 1700 sq feet, 73 degrees nice cast iron rads great heat, con is they use so much hot water
basement is 1700 as well, infloor heat at 72 degrees
garage is in floor approx 650 sq feet at 65 degrees
bonus room above garage,cast iron again, approx 400 sq feet at 65 degrees
total is approx 4400 sq feet i guess
burn from nov till whenever,usually may
use approx 2 cords a month, usually hardwood and alittle juniper,correct name is larch,same btu as hardwood.
so i usually burn about 12 cords a yr,who knows, brother owns and operates a foresty and firewood business, approx 3000 cords a yr so i beg ,plead and scrounge at his mill, he has a heatmaster 10,ooo as well.
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The radiant heat seems to be another big factor in wood consumption.
For me, it's the cold outside temperatures.
When I made my initial guesstimate it was after Nov Dec.
I had burned #$&*# all.
My lowball guesstimate, was disturbing to some.
After Jan.,, into Feb.,, I revised it
I burned 3 x the wood in mid winter, as opposed to late fall.
Now, I'm back to less than a wheel barrow for 24 hours.
For a drum with some water around it ,,it's fascinating :thumbup:
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MARCH 7TH
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TODAY, MARCH 22,,.I'M GONNA MAKE APRIL EASY
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kk
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Coolidge, Shrek and Intense are gonna be close.
It's been real cold again -25 c this last couple mornings .
Early April, I'm thinking .
Anyone else gettin low
Shoe us yur piles...
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Heck I ran out of reasonably dry stuff in November so technically I guess I'm out, I got the HeatMaster g-200 running last week and it's doing great, sure wish I had some dry wood to try out!
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Ya still got wood though,,, thats the main thing.
Is this a new stove your breakin in?
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Slim I got some nice dry elm in here ... :o
Help me get it out,,, and I'll split it with ya :bag:
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Yes it's my new show boiler for the year, I just wanted to get used to it so I don't screw up at the shows, first one is at the logging expo in Bangor Maine on May 15 and 16, just about the same time you are going to run out of wood I'll be starting my show season, kind of ironic isn't it.
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Ya kinda wondered if you was busy all summer .
Guess its a 365 days a year, gig.
Sounds like you really enjoy it.
Thats the battle....... doing something you like... and making a living :thumbup:
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Oh I do
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Well, if this cold snap doesn't let up soon I'll be out of wood by mid April. But a co-worker said that come Wednesday and Thursday we are to be expecting temps in the upper 40's into the lower 50's. So, maybe, just maybe I'll make it to the end of April. I had to turn up the thermostats in the house over the weekend due to fighting off a cold/flu. It's not fun sitting around shivering so I cranked them up a bit to help me out. Now that I'm somewhat better I'll be turning the temp down to 70 degrees. Roger
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i burned 6 cords this year so far.
4-5 hard 1-2 soft is my guess. February killed me also. I stacked all my wood in a 2 cord row so i know how much i have left.
Got a 24 hour burn the other day when it was 50.
2500 sq ft 1500 main+1000 basement.
last year i had an indoor unit and burned 5 and it was a PITA.
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Warmer temps will slow things down
I was doing good, till this last blast.
Everyone got colder, right?
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Same here, I was doing great during the warm up. The forecast doesn't seem promising. Might have to order more wood >:(
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been in the 30's here for more then a week! u guys just got our last blast of cold !
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Keep it there!
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ditto
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Yeah, 30's today, 40's tomorrow, 50's Thursday (rain) back to the upper 30's for Friday and perhaps the upper 30's and lower 40's over the weekend. Next week looks like it'll be warming a bit more. There is hope... Roger
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4:20 boys whoever had that date is gonna be close.
Won't make it,, but might make next week
Not using much now.
Shot today at 3 pm est
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It's gonna be between Cooler and Shrek who guessed the closest
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4:20 WINS .
Looks like Intense Drive guessed the closest.
I'm out of projected wood for this season.
Gonna dig into the reserve and burn till May.
-2 c this morning.
6 + cords for almost 6 months.
My original guess was close.
Used squat the last 10 days
Glad I just took the snow tires off the mini van :bash:
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Minnesota here heating 5500sqft ( 4000 spft 65f-72f degrees rest 45f-50f )winter 2013-2014 20 cord . vortex of terror year .
2014-2015 heating same sqft 15 cord . Half dried all oak . heatmor 200css. yes my cords are 4x8x4 128 cuft. :)
Upgrading to 400css this year . adding couple of heat exchangers for even heat back to playing pumper again .
I do believe the 400css will fix my loading issue at -20 f loading every 6-7 hours the 200css wasn't big enough .
adding more insulation is areas also . Im looking forward to the only loading 1 to 2 times aday . :thumbup:
Heat550