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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Closing down

« on: September 24, 2014, 03:46:02 PM »

 Well I've made my mind up, I'm not going to be a dealer much longer. I really can't see a future selling these new epa approved furnaces. I have yet to see one work as well as a conventional furnace and the prices are insane. Who in their right mind is going to pay $10,000+ for a furnace to only heat one home? It sure is a shame, I've done this for 7 or 8 years and built up a decent business. At least I can continue to share my experience on here with people looking for help.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: ridgewood install indoors?

« on: September 14, 2014, 10:04:39 PM »

 Unless it has an UL rating for indoor use then no way should you put a furnace indoors.

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HeatMaster / Re: Triple bypass question

« on: September 14, 2014, 09:10:19 AM »

 As long as its just ash you are fine. You should clean out the top 2 every month or so. I never clean the bottom one unless its really full of ash, its larger so its going to collect ash more quickly.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: high efficiency gassifier boilers

« on: September 08, 2014, 08:47:25 AM »

 Slim really hits the nail on the head here. Conventional furnaces are going to produce a certain amount of creosote because of burn temps. A gasser can burn off the creosote and then because of that capture more heat from the exhaust. Stack temps are one of the ways to find out how efficient a furnace is. Any reliable manufacture is testing based on stack temps.

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Shaver Furnace / Re: Order your new Shaver Furnace before the EPA changes the rules!

« on: September 04, 2014, 11:13:43 PM »

 I guess the question is, when is the end? For some manufactures it will be sooner rather than later. Some companies have a clear path forward and will be in business for many years to come. Customers would be wise to consider that when they buy a furnace.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Water Jacket size---------Smaller/Bigger is Better?

« on: September 04, 2014, 08:27:35 PM »

Normally when people talk about large water capacity they are talking about three times the gal of water per 1,000 btu's. For example a Empyre 450 has 300 gal of water and a similar size furnace by Taylor has 800 gal.

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Shaver Furnace / Re: Order your new Shaver Furnace before the EPA changes the rules!

« on: September 04, 2014, 08:13:57 PM »

 Question-
 If you have to hurry to buy one I assume that means they don't pass the test. I'm not sure I would hurry to buy a furnace from a company that is about to go out of business.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Water Jacket size---------Smaller/Bigger is Better?

« on: September 04, 2014, 09:27:13 AM »

125 to 300 gal is not a lot of water storage.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: grates in an outdoor boiler

« on: September 04, 2014, 07:16:22 AM »

Personally I will never use another furnace without shaker grates. They are one of those things that make a furnace so very much easier to use. I've sold furnaces for years and have never had to replace a single grate. I'm sure they can burn out but it must take a long time.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Water Jacket size---------Smaller/Bigger is Better?

« on: September 02, 2014, 08:44:39 PM »

woodbutcher, how many gals does your cl400 hold. I didn't realize central made a small firebox/large water jacket furnace.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heating season is approaching!

« on: September 01, 2014, 07:15:23 AM »

 We had a sorta dry July and then a very wet Aug. A lot of my hay we cut once and then stockpile for fall grazing. Only about 75 acres to cut this fall.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heating season is approaching!

« on: August 31, 2014, 09:11:51 AM »

 No I'm not ready at all. I still have second cutting of hay to cut and I don't have a furnace installed in my new home yet.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Water Jacket size---------Smaller/Bigger is Better?

« on: August 31, 2014, 09:10:15 AM »

I completely agree with Slim (as always)! There is a time and place for large storage. The problems that a normal situation involving an outdoor furnace is the heat loss and the refiring of the furnace after all the stored heat is used. On a normal outdoor furnace hooked to a home the large storage isn't necessary and would just be a nuisance. Greenhouses, dairy barns, some commercial buildings ect are examples where heat load may fluctuate greatly and heat storage may be beneficial.

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Portage & Main / Re: Social security number

« on: August 29, 2014, 04:21:05 PM »

Well you all know me and I certainly would not even consider ever purposely screwing our wonderful govt. out of their just rewards for the wonderful things that they do for our benefit and of course it's all for free!   THANK GOD AND GOVT? FOR FREE TRADE, THE NEW WORLD ORDER and THE PATRIOT ACT!!!!!

"Merica! Gotta love freedom. Most of all all this freedom from responsibility, thats what seems to be the most popular freedom these days.

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Portage & Main / Re: Social security number

« on: August 29, 2014, 11:07:06 AM »

 Online orders allow the dealer to not have to collect the sales tax, the customer is still required to pay it in the state they live in. If some of you are not filing your sales tax on items ordered online I would advise against talking about it online. Technically you are evading taxes.