Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: donniet79 on December 31, 2017, 05:52:25 AM
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-19 this morning and it was -12 last night when I filled my stove. I filled it at 8:30 last night and when I say filled, I mean filled. I checked a couple of pieces of wood that I threw in and they were both 18% moisture reading. Had my damper set at 60%. It probably would have made it 12 hours, but I didn’t want to have to have to fight with it to get it back piping again. My house is ~1800sq ft kepping it at 75 all of the time, also doing dhw and my garage is 1080sq ft using in floor and keeping it at 65 all of the time. Just wondering if that is a decent burn out of this stove in these temps? House is a bit drafty in spots
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It sounds like the house may not be insulated very well or you need new windows to stop the drafts. I don’t have a lot of experience with the MF series so I can’t say for sure. How well insulated is the garage as well?
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I had new windows put in a few years ago, but that's where the air seems to be coming through. I'll have to tear some outside walls out when it warms up a bit and see if I can get those sealed up. Built my garage a couple of years ago and it is 2x4 walls with r-13 insulation, attic is blown in to about r-30, under slab is 2" insulation and around the edge of slab is 1".
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What kind of wood are you using and how are you stacking it? What was your water temp this morning and what did you have left for coals? The firebox on the 5000 isn't huge, but you're also keeping things pretty warm- I'd say that's about par for the course to burn a full load in 10 hours. I'm not far away from you and have essentially the same stove but the next size up, and burned about the same amount as you of 20ish percent MC oak. My firebox is 50% bigger than yours but I was only about half full. Then again my shop is 1600 sq ft and super insulated but only 52 degrees. House is 2800 with a spray foamed walkout basement and a somewhat drafty upper level with 2x6 walls and fiberglass, mid grade windows- only kept at 71. Mine has been fantastic in terms of consumption up until the last couple days, so it must be pretty darn cold out there. I'd say you did just fine
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Burning 100% oak. Water temp was at 172 on the stove and as far as coals there were a quite a bit. After raking them they were just under the door opening from front to back. I stacked 2 rows deep running parallel with grates totally filled box slightly loose, not stacked tightly. I think it was you that I had talked to before about stacking opposite of the grates. I may try that again because in the milder weather when I tried that, it seemed to do pretty good.
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Seeing as they're essentially the same stove, I would say you'll have better luck stacking perpendicular as I do. It was night and day difference for me, especially in terms of burning up the coals instead of having 10 gallons of them like you did this morning. I had about 2 gallons of coals left after I raked them, just a nice bed to cover the grates a couple inches thick.
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I already filled it this morning, but I'll give that a try this evening when I load it again. It's supposed to be cold again tonight, which I'm sure you're well aware of. 10 day forecast is showing we may get above 0 by next Saturday.
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Darin. You have the c375 right? Doesn’t that thing have a 36 cubic feet firebox? You used 18 cubic feet of wood in a loading?
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Darin. You have the c375 right? Doesn’t that thing have a 36 cubic feet firebox? You used 18 cubic feet of wood in a loading?
I suppose that does sound ridiculous doesn't it? My "half full" is halfway top to bottom with 20" blocks stacked perpendicular to the grate and nothing on the sides. So doing the math here 40 deep by 20 wide by 18 tall (half full, by my standards) makes right at 9 Cu Ft. Guess it was only 1/4 full. But still twice as much wood as I was putting in it a week ago. Last few days have been very hard on the wood pile. About 3.5 wheelbarrow loads a day. Daytime uses almost none but night is bad
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I’m right with you on being hard on the wood pile. I just burned 53 cubic feet in the last six days. At 14 loading that is 4.41 cubic feet per loading. That is more than double what I was burning with highs in the 30s and lows around 15.
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I’m right with you on being hard on the wood pile. I just burned 53 cubic feet in the last six days. At 14 loading that is 4.41 cubic feet per loading. That is more than double what I was burning with highs in the 30s and lows around 15.
Trade you?
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Grady, heatmaster was going to take care of your situation two weeks ago until you told them that you were just going to put your optimizer back in I thought. What’s the deal man? Just let them take care of it, I think everything was going to be all set until you told them that you were all set and were going to just put your optimizer back in. I even spent an hour on the phone with Ryan to get you on the right tracks and get your boiler on track to be fixed. Just let them fix it.
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Talking to Ryan after the holidays.
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Sounds great. Hopefully you guys can get back on the tracks and know that you aren’t all set with your pm and need to get this one figured out. Have you been talking to our dealer yet?
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I really hope they can get this figured out for yah Coolidge.
I thought today I was really chewing thru the wood, barely having a short tote cage last three days. Until I started thinking about it which would only be 2 1/2 cords a month as a short tote is roughly a 1/4 cord. Have set a new record low high during that time as well. Have had a short cage last 5 1/2 days when we had more normal winter temps for our area.
My problem is the shop, wood consumption is barely worth mentioning for just the house. Shop is a old cow barn, no vapor barrier even under the floor. Hate to spend a whole bunch re insulating as it would still be too low to ever get a combine in and too narrow to ever unfold a 16 row planter in.
The dealer that sold you this stove should be resolving this situation if they really cared about their customers.
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Supposed to be -9 tonight which is what it has been for awhile now and supposed to be for another week. Been filling my G200 about 80 to 90 percent full at night and probably 60 to 65 percent in the daytime, 12 hr. burn times. All oak wood but some slab wood which I just finished up today. I am heating a 3000 sq. ft. well insulated shed at 50 degrees but it does have 2-20'x14' overhead doors. My home is well over 3000 sq. ft. with two separate heating systems and also DHW.
I have gone through a little over 5 cord of wood so far this heating season which started in early November.
Stay warm boys and Happy New Year!
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So far I’ve used 4 plastic tanks, 6 short tote cages and 3 tall tote cages. Most of October and part of November was mild enough there really was no need for heat or I was using the waste oil boiler in the shop.
Takes 5 plastic totes/tanks or 4 short cages or 3 tall cages to make a cord. Consumption really picked up on National Hate Japan Day when winter finally showed up.
I should add I’ve not run the sidewalk in at least a week or ten days. It’s been cold enough what snow we’ve got is nothing but powder, takes less time to fire up the leaf blower and blow it off the sidewalk than it does to add extra wood to the G.
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Seeing as they're essentially the same stove, I would say you'll have better luck stacking perpendicular as I do. It was night and day difference for me, especially in terms of burning up the coals instead of having 10 gallons of them like you did this morning. I had about 2 gallons of coals left after I raked them, just a nice bed to cover the grates a couple inches thick.
Tried it last night and it didn't work in my stove. I loaded it about 9PM last night and woke up 6AM this morning to cool air blowing. Boiler temp was down to 117. Did have a few coals left, so it should get back going here in a bit. It was worth a try though. I suppose I could try one stack parallel and the next stack perpendicular and see if that might be better. I did that once before and it seemed like it did ok.
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Coolige: let Heatmaster handle. They will take care of it. I would keep other people not affiliated with Heatmaster out of the situation. Get ahold of your new local dealer if needed as well. Follow the process and you will be taken care of! I understand you wanting to switch out the 250, hope that works out for you.
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I haven't been tracking wood usage but I'd have to say I went through t2 FC this past week. The cold nights have been a killer. Also been.im and.out of the shop alot, and Everytime I open an overhead door the HX is going to run.
I'm still working on figuring out a good mix of small and large split sizes per loading
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I hear yah, have the semi tractor parked in the shop right now, need to find a freeze plug to pull to install a block heater, don’t matter how quick you are pulling something in our out, with these temps once the big door is open temps drop like a rock.
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Seeing as they're essentially the same stove, I would say you'll have better luck stacking perpendicular as I do. It was night and day difference for me, especially in terms of burning up the coals instead of having 10 gallons of them like you did this morning. I had about 2 gallons of coals left after I raked them, just a nice bed to cover the grates a couple inches thick.
Tried it last night and it didn't work in my stove. I loaded it about 9PM last night and woke up 6AM this morning to cool air blowing. Boiler temp was down to 117. Did have a few coals left, so it should get back going here in a bit. It was worth a try though. I suppose I could try one stack parallel and the next stack perpendicular and see if that might be better. I did that once before and it seemed like it did ok.
I think ya just didn't put enough wood in lol. Doesn't affect consumption by stacking one way or another, it's just a more thorough burn perpendicular. Mine would bridge and not burn everything when parallel, so it'd cool down faster because there was still unburned wood left in the firebox. If you're able to burn everything up by stacking parallel, no sense in messing with a good thing. Doesn't matter how it's stacked in terms of how much wood it will burn though
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Ha, that could be because I didn't put in as much as when I load the other way. I guess I probably put in about 1/2 of what I would normally put in. Lol, I should've known better in this cold.
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The older MF5e has a round firebox without the depth of the C375 so the bridging doesn't happen as much. Harder to get wood all the way in the back tho.
Lotta calls now.... Why's my stove burning so much wood.. It's just c-c-c -old! :)
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The older MF5e has a round firebox without the depth of the C375 so the bridging doesn't happen as much. Harder to get wood all the way in the back tho.
Lotta calls now.... Why's my stove burning so much wood.. It's just c-c-c -old! :)
LMAO!! exactly!!! It's focking COLD! that's why!! Lol
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Getting at least 12 hrs on 75+ percent full. Seems to burn better when it is colder. My wood use is better than November and it is cold -15 at nights here. About 1 cord a month.
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Also eating through the wood a little quicker now,but it was -32 Fahrenheit here this morning,used to be two wheelbarrow loads of 18” length wood for a 12-15 hour burn,that is down to 8-10 hours now,also into butternut,so much lower btu’s.
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I guess mine is not really out of line compared to your guys’ furnaces. I’m hoping I can tighten up my house a bit and fix some ductwork before next winter and see how it does then. My stove does seem to run a lot better though when I don’t worry about it and check on it every 30 minutes to check the temperature. Funny how if you let it do it’s thing it does just fine
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I guess mine is not really out of line compared to your guys’ furnaces. I’m hoping I can tighten up my house a bit and fix some ductwork before next winter and see how it does then. My stove does seem to run a lot better though when I don’t worry about it and check on it every 30 minutes to check the temperature. Funny how if you let it do it’s thing it does just fine
"A watched pot never boils"
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I guess mine is not really out of line compared to your guys’ furnaces. I’m hoping I can tighten up my house a bit and fix some ductwork before next winter and see how it does then. My stove does seem to run a lot better though when I don’t worry about it and check on it every 30 minutes to check the temperature. Funny how if you let it do it’s thing it does just fine
"A watched pot never boils"
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Hoardac you must not have a real big load do you? 1 cord a month seems really lite.
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Not the biggest load but 1000 square feet attic and cellar heated very warmly. I had 10 cords delivered made 10 equal rows takes a little over 30 days per load we mark on the calendar when we start. I was getting about the same times in the warmer weather as we are now in this below zero crap.