Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: gspren on January 12, 2016, 05:18:23 PM
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Today I got my oil tank filled for $1.69 Gal and if I pay in 10 days I can knock another 2 cents off. Last year I went through some of this years wood so I am switching the house/domestic back to oil and just use the OWB to heat my "Man Cave" shed where my old dog lives and I relax. It's a 12 X 22 shed with a cast iron radiator and I keep it about 62 degrees, only need to fire the wood off once a day and use very little. Maybe this way I'll get caught up on my wood cutting.
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Trader >:D. I might consider the same approach, but all I have is a wood burner, I really should put a backup system in before I can't get wood anymore.
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Propane is cheap this year as well but there is no way I'm going to start using it and limit my stove use. As long as I'm able to cut firewood, those oil and gas companies can choke on their product. Especially after they've been putting it to the less fortunate ( non Stove owners ) for YEARS.
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Propane is cheap this year as well but there is no way I'm going to start using it and limit my stove use. As long as I'm able to cut firewood, those oil and gas companies can choke on their product. Especially after they've been putting it to the less fortunate ( non Stove owners ) for YEARS.
Like when propane hit $5 a gallon awhile back?
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a couple of years ago my son paid for one fill up of his propane tank 1.14 per liter (that prompted me to build him an OWB) This year I installed a whole house generator that uses propane (I have no natural gas near me) and my fill up price was 49.9 per litre, that was in December I am thinking it may be less now?
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I admit tempting for people that purchase wood, not so tempting for people that have access to free wood. I have not done the math here, but I pay $140 per full cord of wood and burn on average 13 cord a year. That is just over 1,800. In the past with propane cost I would not blink a eye at 1,800. But here is the catch, when I burned propane 4 years ago It cost me $825 per month with the stat set at 58 degrees. With wood I run my house mostly at 68 - 70. If memory serves me right first propane fill was December, January, February, and last fill March. Average fill then was around 800 - 850. Total cost to heat my house at 58 degrees four years ago was 3,300, and was cold and miserable. Only propane appliance was the furnace everything else is electrical. So lets look further, if I was to heat the house to 68 degrees using propane, my costs could have soared to 5,000 or even more. Savings approx 3,200 per year WOW!.. If prices got low enough, never will for this old farm house. The thought of just turning a dial up without dealing with wood .. I would be a trader in a heart beat.
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I have access to "Free" wood right here on my little farm, I have good saws, tractor with loader, ATV, UTV, trailers and splitter, but at 64 years old with a bad ankle I cut only a few hours at a time. With these oil prices I am trying to get ahead on next years wood while still keeping a fire going for the Man Cave.
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Even with the low oil prices, the cost it saves me to buy a grapple load, cut, split and stack it compared to the amount oil it takes to heat that old house, it's still cheaper for me to burn wood. Plus, I consider running the chainsaw, woodsplitter and stacking it part of my wellness program. Now, in 10 years time check back with me, I may change my mind. Roger
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if you do a little each day its easy doing wood! i do about an hour a day , some day i might cut for an hour, another day i put some in the wood shed or one day clean up the mess, but every day for a hour i something that has to do with the wood burner,and like rodger said its better and cheeper then the gym!
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I work for a Fuel Company and 10 years ago when fuel prices were $2.40 I decided it was time to go with an OWB. I had a small wood boiler in the basement but it didn't burn that long, and the colder it was the more I was gone working. It just didn't work out, and at $6500 a year for fuel oil I am am very happy with to outside time that burning wood makes me do. I love it !!
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1.95for#1fuel oil here !!! Yea....I need to have an oil boiler to bring my energy rating up ,as it scores my system by efficiency! ...I will tie in to my wood coal set up!
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gspren, I understand what you are doing. I think it's a good idea. Sometimes people fall behind cutting wood, maybe because of an injury or extra time spent at work or whatever the case may be. Now is a good time to conserve your resources and buy some less expensive fossil fuel and get caught-up on your wood supply.
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I won’t “pay” for heat unless I have no choice, with the emerald ash borer I have another 100 ash trees to drop this winter then next winter we are having 70 some plus trees logged out for furniture. Mostly red oak, white oak and cherry with a few veneer quality walnuts and hard maples. Would be a sin to let that go to waste.
In the shoulder seasons I heat the shop and house with a waste oil boiler.
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Even with the low oil prices, the cost it saves me to buy a grapple load, cut, split and stack it compared to the amount oil it takes to heat that old house, it's still cheaper for me to burn wood. Plus, I consider running the chainsaw, woodsplitter and stacking it part of my wellness program. Now, in 10 years time check back with me, I may change my mind. Roger
I’m still doing physical therapy for my neck and back, I started around the first of September, my therapist says as long as I can do it without causing any more damage, cutting wood is great therapy. It takes strength, stamina and flexibility to do.
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WE moved this (last) year to rurals and filled the propane tank at 1.01$ per gallon and locked in a contract at 1.48$ for two years. I said, " why hook up the boiler at all this year?"
By November I couldn't stand looking at that boiler not running. So, its hooked up and running. It will take a few more years to pay itself off now that propane is cheap.
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don't know heating oil or propane prices but gasoline at the odd place is .88 cents which is $3.33 US gallon :'(
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Ran some quick figures on the fuel comparison calculator. (http://nepacrossroads.com/fuel-comparison-calculator.php)Any way you put it. Figuring it with your price for oil, $1.69, heating with wood is still only about half the price of oil, buying split stacked dry cord wood at $60/cord, which comes to $150/face cord. Wood ends up costing $9.70 per million BTUs and oil ends up costing $17.41 per million BTUs.
The bottom line. Let prices do what they want, WOOD HEAT IS GOOD HEAT!!!
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I filled my oil tank here in Mass the day I lit my OWB off a couple weeks back . $1.36 was the price that day. I dont plan on looking at the oil tank again until late spring when I will prob let the oil boiler heat my DHW for the summer. I dont care how cheap oil is I hate hearing that oil burner running. I like cutting wood and tucking it to the oil companies too! :thumbup:
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Can’t really get firewood for $60/cord here, moist of the time even at the auctions a well stacked load of wood in a short bed PU goes for $60-$80 a load.
I’ve seen green cords advertised for $125/150 before in the paper.
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SPLIT SPRUCE FIREWOOD $225 A CORD
GIVE US A CALL,, in paper today...….
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I'd miss the smokey smell around the plantation.
Got way ahead last year so selling face cords locally
kk
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Seen a sign on the way too work for firewood c/s/d for 280 a cord a few weeks ago, went by yesterday they are down to 270 cord.
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Yep, the cheap fuel will have an effect on wood prices.
We can't complain, cept our loonie went down with the price of oil.
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We can't complain, cept our loonie went down with the price of oil.
loonie?????
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The 'loonie" is the nickname given to our $1 coin because it has a picture of a loon on it - but may soon be replaced with a picture of the new Prime Minister. No nickname change is planned. :bag:
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The 'loonie" is the nickname given to our $1 coin because it has a picture of a loon on it - but may soon to be replaced with a picture of the new Prime Minister. No nickname change is planned. :bag:
Ah…..
I get to deal with metal coins as well when we visit her family in England. If your not careful you can end up with 5 pounds of change in your pocket.
£2 and £1 coins then 50, 20, 10, 5, 2, and 1 pence coins can weigh a guy down in a hurry. I’m usually pretty proud of myself when I can deal wit that, not hold the queue up and get all my pocket change spent, then the wife will hand me a few handfuls of hers as she just spends the paper money.
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don't know heating oil or propane prices but gasoline at the odd place is .88 cents which is $3.33 US gallon :'(
Just so were all on the same page and we don't look like complete suckers up here:
88c Can equals 62.9 cents US, which equals $2.51 US for a US gallon.
Still we pay more for gas and everything else.
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don't know heating oil or propane prices but gasoline at the odd place is .88 cents which is $3.33 US gallon :'(
Just so were all on the same page and we don't look like complete suckers up here:
88c Can equals 62.9 cents US, which equals $2.51 US for a US gallon.
Still we pay more for gas and everything else.
Too much green energy? I do know your electric rates are considerably higher than ours.
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Everything is more,, except going to college, or the free doctor/hospitol.
But I guess thats taken care of by our high taxes.
Ya wanna play ya gotta pay
I think this is the way sanders is gonna swing,if elected.
You guys are gonna love paying 30+$ bananas for a box of beer [50% tax]or something like that?
Heres a picture of our new Prime Minister as a child
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/kommandokenny/XaiUx%201.gif)
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Oh god, Bernie Sanders as president, theres a thought that keeps me awake at night. The mediocrity will continue with everybody getting a trophy for participating in breathing.
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12647105_10153786345905498_2819552858358232032_n.jpg?oh=6cd979774391978c5fb47b3368e3535a&oe=57239DF6)
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Thanks mlappin and kommandokenny for a great laugh today!!
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My pleasure, we all need a little laugh now and then!
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That is some great pics men !!!😀😀😁
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Seen a sign on the way too work for firewood c/s/d for 280 a cord a few weeks ago, went by yesterday they are down to 270 cord.
At those rates a person could make good money buying firewood in NW Wisconsin for 70/cord and reselling it in your are for 200/cord.