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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: March 11, 2019, 08:52:27 PM »

Update - Here we are on March 11, still cold and still snowing. My Edge continues to perform without any hiccups. Reaction chamber temps on my XP chart continues to show 1,000-1,200 degree temps each burn cycle. I still have found no need to pull or check my primary elbow or behind any air channels inside the firebox. Just brush a little light dust out of the rear heat exchanger through the rear hinge door every 3 weeks when I shovel out some ash powder from the reaction chamber. Love this furnace and couldn't be easier. Looking forward to calling it the end of the heating season though. Been a long cold and snowy winter. Will then remove the primary elbow and firebox channel covers for the first time and see if there is anything behind them. Will continue to keep you posted.

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Central Boiler / Re: 1st hiccup of heating season

« on: February 08, 2019, 09:57:09 PM »

Roger, maybe you have it resolved by now, but after your post I looked in my Firestar owner's manual and it looks like we can temporarily bypass the bypass alarm by going into the programming to get back up and running. I'd call your dealer as well for a new low water sensor, I'm sure it will be covered under warranty. Let us know how you come out. On the flip side, pretty cool how you get a text message when there is a problem or even if the boiler thinks there is a problem from the XP wifi.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Dummy way to flex/bend PEX for easy connections

« on: January 20, 2019, 09:22:18 AM »

Thanks for understanding what I was thinking guys and not typing...Yes, I meant to say that pump needs to be turned 1/4 turn in the picture so it would be "horizontal".

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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: January 19, 2019, 05:43:57 PM »

My Edge has now been running for 11 weeks and I'm totally impressed with how easy it is to run and more forgiving on coalbed depth. As long as I keep the coals below the firebox side and front air holes and push the rod through the coals once a day, that is about all I have to do. About every 3 weeks I remove 3-4 small square faced shovels of powder ash out of reaction chamber through the front and rear access. Nothing but a little light powdery ash on the rear exhangers. That hinged rear access door sure eliminates the rear exchanger cleaning issue knock that most gassers have had over the years. Still no creosote buildup on the side or front air channels inside as it seems to just burn off. As previously stated, the stainless seems to operate much drier. My intent is still to not pull off the primary elbow or channel covers until spring shut down unless performance says I need to. Continuing to get 1,000+ reaction chamber temps every burn cycle. Even with colder temps it does not seem to be burning any more wood than previous. At current usage I should have wood from my estimated 2018 allotment carrying over for next season. I could not live without the XP wifi after having it on my smart phone showing me current temps and history charts. It becomes addicting and almost like a game trying for new high reaction chamber temps and performance charts! Will keep you posted as we go through the 2nd half of the heating season.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Dummy way to flex/bend PEX for easy connections

« on: January 19, 2019, 05:38:41 PM »

I've always mounted my Taco pumps with the head/motor mounted vertcally per instructions with good longevity results.  Never with the head of the pump pointed up or down. The picture appears to show the grunnfos with the head pointed up at the 12:00 position or am I looking at it wrong? Maybe that is correct for a grunnfos pump? I know a Taco won't last long mounted that way.

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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: December 13, 2018, 08:50:42 PM »

My Edge 750HD is still running perfectly for 6 weeks now. Very little creosote building up on the air channels. Nothing but a little fine dust in the rear access heat exchangers. I have no intention of taking off the primary elbow or pulling the air channel panels until the end of the heating season. Small amount of ash scooped out of reaction chamber. Very easy to do through both the front and now rear access doors. The wifi XP is a great feature and chart looks great. I attached a shot of the dashboard  and chart so you can see what it looks like.

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HeatMaster / Re: Temperature settings

« on: November 28, 2018, 09:01:23 PM »

I'm running my new 750 Edge HD at 185 as well and have played with operating at different set points  from 175 up to 190 and notice no difference in wood usage. I agree that higher operation temps reduce creosote buildup in the firebox. My thinking is that a burn cycle brings the water up 10 degrees regardless if from 165-175 or 175-185. The burn cycle seems to take about the same time and the urathane insulation keeps it there until the exchangers in my house/garage pull the water temp down for the next burn cycle.

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Central Boiler / Re: Can't get her going this year (E-Classic 2400)

« on: November 20, 2018, 08:10:10 PM »

When you start a burn cycle the fan runs and the top solenoid/elbow opens putting air into the firebox air channels. At reaction chamber temp 550 the the stage 2 solenoid below opens and at 750 the stage 3 solenoid below also opens both putting air into the charge tube blowing down into reaction chamber (all three open) I can't remember for sure but when the loading door is open I think both the stage 2 and stage 3 solenoids should be open with stage 1 closed. When starting my first fire I fill the firebox 2/3 full of dry kindling (nothing over 2 inches across) and light with paper underneath. Burn with bypass open for 50 minutes, then add more kindling and some medium size wood on top, close firebox door and bypass immeadiately. Reaction chamber temp should then start rising quickly. If the fire goes out at that point you have an airflow issue. Operation is simply fan running and top solenoid open. Confirm visually then close the airbox tight with clips. If those are doing there job, you need to follow the airflow throughout the airflow passage and find what is plugged up. In elbow, through firebox air channels, down through coal bed into reaction chamber, up through exchangers, through chimney tee, up chimney and out through spart arrestor if used. Let us know what you find. (Note - I always oiled my fan at the end of every season during final cleanup)

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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: November 10, 2018, 11:15:30 AM »

Update - Up and running for a week now. Firebox seems to be burning much drier than Eclassic. Very little if any creosote buildup on air channels or air holes. Burn cycles seem to recover water temperature faster too. Very pleased.

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Central Boiler / Re: She's up and running

« on: November 10, 2018, 11:11:24 AM »

Roger - Great to hear CB to care of your 10-15 degree overshoot issue. Sounds like it is running great now with new controller. I think my Edge firebox is running much drier than my Eclassic, with very little if any creosote buildup on the air hole areas and channels, are you finding the same to be true?

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Central Boiler / Re: Temperature Gauge

« on: November 10, 2018, 11:03:49 AM »

Trying to remember back to my old Classic days, but yes it may be just the water temp sensor probe. Probably just $10 or $12 bucks or so. Worse case scenerio could be a controller which sell for under $60 I think.

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Central Boiler / Re: E-Classic 1450 Reaction Chamber TC failure - HELP!

« on: November 10, 2018, 11:01:37 AM »

Keep the pump running! Also with a TC fail error on a CB gasser it will fall back into a timer mode for stage 1,2 & 3 air like their early Eclassic 2300 did. It should not boil, overheat or go out if a TC error is showing. I believe you might lose a little efficiency but hey no other brand gassers are fine tuning secondary air based on thermocouple combustion readings, so fire it back up and run until you get a replacement thermocouple.

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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: November 06, 2018, 08:12:57 PM »

XP wifi up and running. Connected easily to my router. I've attached a screenshot of XP chart. Seems to run very similiar to my 2400. Fan shuts off at 185 and water temp overshoots by 4-5 degrees just from the intense burn and coals which is about the same as my 2400 at current 30 degree temperatures. Will probably overshoot less once get more of a winter heat load on it. No problem. Very stingy on wood usage, best guess is pretty similar to the 2400, but can better compare when gets colder. Firebox seems to be burning a little drier than the 2400 and burn recovery time may be quicker. My wood all has been seasoned for about a year which I've been ahead on now for many years, so getting nice reaction chamber temps of 1,000 - 1,400 degrees each burn cycle.

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Central Boiler / Re: She's up and running

« on: November 06, 2018, 08:08:24 PM »

XP wifi up and running. Connected easily to my router. I'm attempting to attach a screenshot of XP chart. Seems to run very similiar to my 2400. Fan shuts off at 185 and water temp overshoots by 4-5 degrees just from the intense burn and coals which is about the same as my 2400 at current 30 degree temperatures. Will probably overshoot less once get more of a winter heat load on it. No problem. Very stingy on wood usage, best guess is pretty similar to the 2400, but can better compare when gets colder. Firebox seems to be burning a little drier than the 2400 and burn recovery time may be quicker. My wood all has been seasoned for about a year which I've been ahead on now for many years, so getting nice reaction chamber temps of 1,000 - 1,400 degrees each burn cycle.

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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!

« on: November 04, 2018, 09:22:26 PM »

New Edge up and running. Change out went smooth, water came up to temperature quickly. Will send in required water sample after 48 hours of circulation for the 25 year warranty coverage. Have not tried hooking up the xp wifi yet. My techie son said he will come by tomorrow night and help connect up. Will keep you posted after getting a couple of days operation under my belt to compare it with my E2400.