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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Thinking of getting a owb but have some questions for you guys.
« on: February 07, 2011, 01:04:37 PM »
Pine actually puts out more btu per pound than hardwood.
Non resinous wood has around 8000 to 8500 BTU per pound and resinous wood has around 8600 to 9700 BTU per pound.
Non resinous wood has around 8000 to 8500 BTU per pound and resinous wood has around 8600 to 9700 BTU per pound.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Need help- Circ pumps keep failing
« on: February 04, 2011, 11:13:26 PM »
That new pump you got is not water lubricated so shouldn't have any more problems. Did it cost much over $300?
Do you happen to have a watt meter? (ie kill-a-watt) from what I have seen that type pump is quite a bit more efficient but never had one yet to test. A regular circulator seems to draw the full rated power at any load. From what I have seen these don't. I am thinking about trying an Armstrong E9 pump which is the same design as that Taco but cheaper. If it only uses half the electricity it would pay for itself in a few years.
Do you happen to have a watt meter? (ie kill-a-watt) from what I have seen that type pump is quite a bit more efficient but never had one yet to test. A regular circulator seems to draw the full rated power at any load. From what I have seen these don't. I am thinking about trying an Armstrong E9 pump which is the same design as that Taco but cheaper. If it only uses half the electricity it would pay for itself in a few years.
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Fire Wood / Re: How much wood is this?
« on: February 03, 2011, 10:17:55 PM »
I would guess you will end up with 3-5 cord from it.
There are usually pretty big gaps when they dump logs in a truck. Especially if they are bigger and not straight.
There are usually pretty big gaps when they dump logs in a truck. Especially if they are bigger and not straight.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Need help- Circ pumps keep failing
« on: January 29, 2011, 09:26:32 AM »
How are the pumps failing? freezing up, windings burning out, etc?
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Plumbing / Re: underground piping
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:57:19 PM »i am considering replacing my underground pipe as the insulation value is deteriorating badly. When i installed this 11 years ago the rage was 1 inch kitec wrapped in 3 layers of bubble rap and run down a 4 inch plastic sewer pipe. In the time it has been underground i believe it has cracked (at least in one spot) and let water into the pipe so now i am heating the earthi as well as the house. i used 1/3 more wood last year that in previous years. I was thinking i could live with that as wood is plevtiful...but i have since thought that just because my wood supply is good,that is no reason to waste it. i want to make it right in case i am not here in the years to come.Do you happen to know if the drain tile was made from recycled plastic? My supplier only draintile made fro 100% new plastic because the recycled stuff was cracking after a while.
I guess my question is what pipe is the best. I like the logstor brand but i also read that for every hundred feet that pex lines can "grow" an inch. does this type of insulation around the pex allow for this? or will it eventually crack? Or should it be run down another tile so it has room to move a little inside it?
I would really like this to be the last time for this underground piping stuff. lol
Any one have thoughts or ideas??
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Plumbing / Re: Need a new heat exchanger
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:39:19 PM »
Is there a reason you are looking at stainless shell and tube type instead of flat plate type?
I think I could get you a 24" long sidearm like the one in the above post for the same price.
I think I could get you a 24" long sidearm like the one in the above post for the same price.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Has anyone heard of Acme furnace company in Mo?
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:21:07 PM »
I just looked at their website and am trying to figure out what this is supposed to prove, they have it in several places.
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Greater Water Capacity
Acme Furnaces have a 235 gallon capacity giving you more BTUs for your money.
A BTU is the amount of heat it takes to raise the temperature of a pound of water by one degree.
If you start with 55 degree water and you raise it to 180 degrees this is a 125 degree change.
Water weight 8 lbs. per gallon.
235 gal. x 8 lbs. = 1880 lbs.
1880 lbs. x 125 degrees = 235,000 BTUs
Don't be fooled, this is a proven fact you would have to heat 100 gallons of water to 435 degrees to extract 300,000 BTUs. That's not possible or even smart to try!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Considering???
« on: January 25, 2011, 10:50:31 PM »
To keep the system fully automatic, just put a strap on aquastat on the line coming from the OWB that disables the gas boiler over a set temp.
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Plumbing / Re: should circulating pump be wired to run 24\7 or shut off and on?
« on: January 25, 2011, 10:31:48 PM »Has anyone done the calculation to see what this cost to run pumps 24/7 ? I can see how it would be beneficial for DHW but seams like a waste. I am a cheap 8*5&tadr and get upset when the fire is out and the draft fan is out there just blowing cold air into the stove. JMO.It isn't very hard to figure out. Just divide 1000 the wattage of the pump of the pump.
If you have an 85 watt pump you would do 1000 / 85 = 11.76 hours per KWH
So approximately 2 KWH per day. I think the average rate is $0.10 per KWH so $6 per month running continuous.
If you have a larger pump (taco 001, grundfos 26-96, etc) it is about $15 per month.
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Plumbing / Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
« on: January 25, 2011, 10:19:04 PM »Wouldn't this be what he would want? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/APOLLO-Y-Strainer-2NYZ9I'm having issues with my mixing valve screen clogging on my domestic hot water. I need to filter out the little particulates prior to the mixing valve. Any ideas on a filter for hot water?
Grainger rules. Always compare prices though,somethings can be found for less, but they always seem to have what I need. This looks pretty reasonable:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MUELLER-STEAM-SPECIALTY-Y-Type-Strainer-1RND1?Pid=search
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Plumbing / Re: Boiler Questions
« on: January 25, 2011, 10:12:26 PM »
Does the pump on the wood boiler run continuously? If not, can you make run full time and just circulate through the two boilers?
The height of the piped in the second story won't make any difference unless you get air in the system up there. The return water is pulling equally to make the pump not have to do any lifting.
The height of the piped in the second story won't make any difference unless you get air in the system up there. The return water is pulling equally to make the pump not have to do any lifting.
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Home Made / Re: Gravity feed pellet burner, requesting help with heat exchanger
« on: January 24, 2011, 06:12:41 PM »
To heat air, find a newer forced air fuel oil furnace. I don't remember the brand of the one I am thinking of but it is green. There is a pot that the fire shoots into. If you pull the whole assembly out your burner might fit in the hole.
Is the burner safe enough to leave unattended while you sleep as close to your house as you would need it for forced air? You can probably find a gas or oil boiler that you could remove the burner and modify to accept your burner. This way you could put it far enough from the house that if it catches on fire to be safe.
Is the burner safe enough to leave unattended while you sleep as close to your house as you would need it for forced air? You can probably find a gas or oil boiler that you could remove the burner and modify to accept your burner. This way you could put it far enough from the house that if it catches on fire to be safe.
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For Sale / Re: Leaky boiler forsale Royall $1500
« on: January 24, 2011, 12:06:37 PM »
I wasn't either till I took a magnet too it then researched it. (it is non-magnetic ss) It is not the same as American Royal, they are in Plymouth WI and this was made in Elroy WI. It appears that they quit making non-pressurized boilers sometime around 2006. (maybe sold that line to american royal?)
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For Sale / Re: Leaky boiler forsale Royall $1500
« on: January 24, 2011, 09:19:26 AM »
Not sure how old it is. I would guess at least 10 years old. They used it on a greenhouse in the spring for the last 6 years with it leaking. (was drained the rest of the year) At that time they bought a new boiler for the house which started leaking last winter. (I don't even know what brand it was but it was an ugly sucker ) They don't use the greenhouse anymore. I took both on trade towards a new boiler.
I have no idea if they used water treatment but it is dairy grade stainless so it can't rust.
I have no idea if they used water treatment but it is dairy grade stainless so it can't rust.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Cloths dryer conversion
« on: January 23, 2011, 11:36:47 PM »
I guess I don't get emails to replies here.
I will take some pics if I remember in the next day or two. It is nothing pretty but works. I just used a heat exchanger I had laying around and not a very good size for it but was free.
I will take some pics if I remember in the next day or two. It is nothing pretty but works. I just used a heat exchanger I had laying around and not a very good size for it but was free.