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NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« on: February 25, 2015, 04:23:05 PM »

I am so confused, I have talked to many dealers on many different brands; and 3 different dealers on one brand - All different info...
I am in North Western VIRGINIA (not West Virginia)-
I would like to heat the following -
3400 sqft Residence w/ water to air in furnace; well insulated and good windows (many though);
400 sqft Bonus Room over Garage - not determined on what to use
750 sqft Attached Garage, with hung type unit (water lines for above listed bonus room)
Domestic Hot Water
I would like to do the above on one line set, then add second line set to a Shop 1800 sqft well insulated also.
Both the Garage and shop would not need the ability to reach high temps.
I have looked at CB6048, Woodmaster5500, Heat MasterMF10000,  Heatmor400,  Acme340 and Crown Royal7400...
I have had 3 different dealers for the same brand tell me different - 2 says big enough and 1 says noway...
ANY HELP...
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 04:33:26 PM »

6500 sq. ft. Not counting your DHW.  If you have that many lines running through the house you probably should insulate them or else figure more in your sq. footage. I think you will need a large unit that's for sure.  Probably something that's advertised to handle at least 10,000 sq. ft.  If one dealer is saying no way, and by saying that he is refusing to sell you something and make a profit, then he might be reliable (unless he is trying to push you to a more expensive model I guess).
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 06:16:57 PM »

ridgewood 7500
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 06:42:00 PM »

The CB 6048 and the MF 10,000E should be the size you are after. I'm not as familiar with the other brands, so I can't comment on them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 06:59:37 PM »

The 10,000e wood be undersized for your application in Wisconsin.  I'm not overly familiar with Virginias climate.  I'm going to guess its quite a bit warmer so you might be alright.  Maybe talk with some locals and see what they think.
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 08:55:43 PM »

The big central should handle it.  Those things are beasts
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 10:07:04 PM »

thanks for all the input...
yea virginia is not as bad as you all get up north... most winter days 20-35f; we have had a fair amount of colder this year but i think everyone has... i currently have a clayton wood furnace in the basement and it does a fair job, just dont get the burn time... i work 10-12 hour shifts and come home to a cold house, not good... and want to be able to put some heat in my shop; I service all of our farm equipment through out the winter, to have ready for the spring season. get tired of listening to that kerosene heater. Kinda thinking may be able to write off a portion on my taxes for farm use...
I guess i should have told you all that house and shop apprx 90-100 feet apart; planning on OWB in between the two. 200+ acres of good hardwood, i will never be able to burn all the dead red oak in my lifetime; access to equipment to move large amounts of wood.
I am currently using 6-8 cord per year now...
thanks again for the info; love the site...
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 10:33:08 PM »

"" i work 10-12 hour shifts and come home to a cold house,"" > see > http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=7238.msg60311#msg60311 lol........

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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 10:39:43 PM »

What is it costing you to heat what you already have? What type of heat? Any estimates on how much it would cost to heat everything you listed with your current heat source? Several years worth of heating costs is a much better gauge that square footage.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 11:05:20 PM »

No not exactly,
House is heat/pump and propane forced air; using about 600-800 gal propane a year. ($1200-2000 per year)
Electric goes up bout $100 per in 4-5 winter months(using electric heat in attached garage and bonus room, due to water lines and bathroom)
Still burning 6+ cords of wood.
Not counting kerosene/diesel in shop for torped. heater - I guess 50+ gals at $3.00gal

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 11:06:47 PM »

I cant get the german shepard to put wood in the stove...
Just me and my ole dog...
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 02:38:39 AM »

Regardless of the boiler make may I make a suggestion on the placement of your boiler? I would be thinking to put the unit close to the shop, think of it this way, you will be in your shop more than the house so feeding it will be easier, if you do get interested in somebody other than your old dog, that person will probably appreciate the stove being placed at the shop so they don't get blasted with smoke when they visit or spend the night! Feeding the boiler will be easiest at the shop rather than walking and hauling wood to the halfway point. Emissions, here is a simple trick I use when placing a boiler, cut a sapling about 10 feet long, tie a piece of flagging tape to one end and stick the other end into the ground, the flagging tape will tell you exactly what the smoke will do at that particular spot. You mentioned all models for conventional units, have you given any thought to gassers, I will be installing a HeatMaster G-400 in a couple of weeks to replace my old Wood Doctor, I burn a lot of wood (35 full cord ) per year and want to reduce that usage.
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 05:09:35 AM »

whatever unit you buy I think you may want to revisit your design on running all that , house , 3400 sqft , garage , 750., and bonus room , 400, and DHW from one set of lines, I think you need to look at 2 here and put a third for your shop,
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 05:17:55 AM »

All I can say is it's a good thing ya got free wood.

And with your place being left alone for 12 hours ,,,,,,,BURN TIME.
Got a guy down the road with a gasser, he's using less wood than me per square ft.,,, but has a small box and can't get more than 8 hours out of it
Keeps small wood stove going in the house. He's pi$$$ed
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Re: NEW to OWB - Ready to Purchase
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 05:49:09 AM »

Get a big conventional. Ultimizer, 400css heatmor, heatmaster MF E, woodmaster. Unless you have to get a gasifier.
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