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coolidge

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Rip off
« on: January 30, 2017, 05:51:28 PM »

Guess they stick it too you if you only use 150 gallons a year.
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Re: Rip off
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 08:50:01 PM »

Wow I'd say so!!  90 cents last time I purchased.  I also own my own tank.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 09:42:23 PM »

Don't pay that! Shop around and bust them for price gouging. 82 cents here in the midwest. My supplier told me they are giving it away in Canada but you gotta get it here! Tell 'em to come get it! That will piss them off!
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 03:39:17 AM »

My plan was to get my own tank last summer, that didn't happen. So I will be moving it to the top of my list this summer.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 05:15:16 AM »

I recognize that bill format.  Suburban Propane strikes again.   :bash:

After ten years I'd had enough of being ripped off by them and switched to Irving. 

Best advice is to find a small local supplier with a couple of trucks and a service tech, and sign up with them.  Buy your own tank too.
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Re: Rip off
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 06:58:41 AM »

wow I though they were wacking me at 2.69. They were charging us around 4.00 when we used it only for cooking. I was going to tell them shove it , but then I put a small space heated in the back room that we use once in a while until I get water lines back there and they dropped my price over a dollar when I told them I was using it for heat too. We probably don't use 80 gal a year. At least they regulate heating oil prices.
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Re: Rip off
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 08:19:16 AM »

You guys are spoiled!!
 try coming to ontario and consuming a little hydro to watch tv and run a pump or two .
200 a month!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad I'm not paying elec. to heat the water for 8 months.

Don't dare to run the central air in the summer here,,,,need another mortgage
They will be shutting down hockey and curling rinks cause they can't afford to keep the lights on.
It'll give you guys a chance to catch up to our hockey programs though.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 04:47:19 PM »

my last bill 369.56 for 1,560.6012 KWH = 23.7 cents per KWH....they are choking us here in ontario
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 05:58:32 PM »

Why so high?
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Re: Rip off
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 06:50:03 PM »

Mismanagement,, bad decisions by Provincial politicians,,, and the general cost of going over a million miles of swamp, rock, lakes, rivers and bush.
Things are really spread out here.
Theres gonna be a change of Gov. here I'm sure
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 07:06:22 PM »

my last bill 369.56 for 1,560.6012 KWH = 23.7 cents per KWH....they are choking us here in ontario

Are u not on the peak off peak schedule Bill??[23]

Oh you factored in the taxes and delivery charges ,,,got it

This is for 2 people,, fridge,,,stove,, boiler pump,, tv,small freezer,,air exchanger fan forced furnace,, and never leave a light on!!!!!!!





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Re: Rip off
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 07:53:16 PM »

Alberta has now put carbon tax on every thing  as of January 1 st  , including heating your ,here one example
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 08:24:57 PM »

yes Kenny, I just take the total, taxes and all, divide the total by the KWH and that is the "real" cost of the electricity


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Re: Rip off
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 10:19:49 PM »

Damn, that’s some expensive electric.

My entire single phase bill is roughly half that. I’m paying $294/month on a budget plan, basically they average a years use and thats what you pay a month.

Have two cow waters with 1000 watt heaters in em, maybe up to 4 vehicles with 750 to 1500 watt block heaters plugged in all winter, then of course the shop lights are 120v single phase, any power tools, a buzz box, two electric fence chargers and the house. Central A/C runs from pretty much from the end of May to the middle or end of September because of the wife’s congenital heart problems and the COPD that came with it.

Most of the time the farm 3 phase is the minimum as in the off season the most that runs is a 5hp compressor, a 300 amp wire welder, a plasma cutter and a bridgeport and lathe, during harvest the 3 phase might cost upwards of $2000/month. One 20hp motor on the pneumatic grain mover, a 15hp motor on the leg, a 10hp motor on the pit auger, numerous 7 1/2hp motors, a handful of 5hop motors and a metric buttload of 3, 2 and 1hp motors scattered about. Also have several 10-15hp aeration fans and six 5hp aeration fans, the grain dryer alone will pull another 100 amps.
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Re: Rip off
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 10:40:47 PM »

yes Kenny, I just take the total, taxes and all, divide the total by the KWH and that is the "real" cost of the electricity
That does not work if you are trying to calculate what a particular appliance costs to run. Say you have something using 200 watts 24/7. If you figure that way you would say it cost about $34 per month. If you turn off the device you will not save $34. It will just make your per KWH rate calculation higher for what you did use.

Or another way to look at it, say you turned off everything and ended up only using 1 KWH for the month. Would you say it was correct to use the total bill amount and claim the power rate was that per KWH?
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