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Title: Make America Great Again
Post by: coolidge on August 16, 2017, 07:26:33 PM
Then stop erasing it's history!  Total bullcrap.

Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: MattyNH on August 16, 2017, 07:45:17 PM
Then stop erasing it's history!  Total bullcrap.
Man totally agree!..Whats next George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?..or even no more Snow White lol, 10 Commandants (thats aired every Easter) .. People don't understand its a 200%  different time than today..i don't know ugh...Trump can't do anything.. Congress sucks..A very deeply divided America..Very sad
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: mlappin on August 16, 2017, 07:56:49 PM
Removing a statue of General Lee or any other confederate statue is the same as burning books. Todays safe space generation can’t seem to handle looking at anything that suggests their little world is anything other than perfect.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: coolidge on August 16, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
Do they even teach kids today about history?  WW1- 2.  Is the Constitution, unconstitutional?

Crap all crap
If you don't like the statues, look the other way. Leave our history ALONE.
We should all start flying the Confederate flag.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: userdk on August 16, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
   In parts of Germany they have put back up the holocaust era signs as a reminder of a past they're not proud of https://www.thelocal.de/20161019/how-germany-remembers-the-holocaust-world-war-two-nazis-jewish-history-germans
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 18, 2017, 03:30:43 PM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square. 
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: mlappin on August 19, 2017, 08:54:05 AM
I think the best option is to leave where they be and instead people need to learn that not everything will agree with their point of view and you may need to tolerate things outside of your safe space.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: coolidge on August 19, 2017, 01:13:14 PM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square.


Mount Rushmore, the Lincoln Monument, White House will not fit in a museum.
They may not be the same era, but its coming, history is history and if your offended don't look at them don't go to them, but don't take them away from the rest of us Americans because someone had a thought.

Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 19, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square.


Mount Rushmore, the Lincoln Monument, White House will not fit in a museum.
They may not be the same era, but its coming, history is history and if your offended don't look at them don't go to them, but don't take them away from the rest of us Americans because someone had a thought.
By that logic you have no voice if the public wish to rip them down...
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 19, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square.


Mount Rushmore, the Lincoln Monument, White House will not fit in a museum.
They may not be the same era, but its coming, history is history and if your offended don't look at them don't go to them, but don't take them away from the rest of us Americans because someone had a thought.
Also none of those monuments have the subjects dressed in military regalia fighting for the side to keep slavery in place.  That's not an insignificant difference.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: slimjim on August 19, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
In many of our minds and in my opinion, the Civil war was not about slavery but instead about individual states rights to choose either local govt or a federal bearocracy, obviously the Feds won and it has so far done an exemplary job with fairness for all mankind, go ahead, erase history and we can all live it again.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: Roger2561 on August 19, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square.

Interesting statement and on the surface it sounds like a nice idea until one looks into it.  I wonder how they go about moving a cemetery to a museum?  I mean Arlington National Cemetery.  The property on which the cemetery sits belonged to the family of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.  Lee had trouble paying his taxes so the feds took the land and began a practice of burying Union soldiers on the property and that continues to this day.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: mlappin on August 19, 2017, 05:31:39 PM
In many of our minds and in my opinion, the Civil war was not about slavery but instead about individual states rights to choose either local govt or a federal bearocracy, obviously the Feds won and it has so far done an exemplary job with fairness for all mankind, go ahead, erase history and we can all live it again.

 :post:

Only like 1.4% of Americans actually owned slaves then.

North vs South was a nail in states rights coffin, Obamacare was several more ringshank nails.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 20, 2017, 10:08:43 AM
In many of our minds and in my opinion, the Civil war was not about slavery but instead about individual states rights to choose either local govt or a federal bearocracy, obviously the Feds won and it has so far done an exemplary job with fairness for all mankind, go ahead, erase history and we can all live it again.
It was about slavery, plain and simply.  The states wanted the right to choose if they could allow slaves or not.  The choice that the states wanted mattered.  This idea that it was simply a state vs federal government ideal is absurd.
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 20, 2017, 10:09:57 AM
I think the best option is to remove any statues and put them in museums  instead of the public square.

Interesting statement and on the surface it sounds like a nice idea until one looks into it.  I wonder how they go about moving a cemetery to a museum?  I mean Arlington National Cemetery.  The property on which the cemetery sits belonged to the family of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.  Lee had trouble paying his taxes so the feds took the land and began a practice of burying Union soldiers on the property and that continues to this day.
I think we could view a cemetery as a different item than a war time statue, many of which were Jim Crow era. 
Title: Re: Make America Great Again
Post by: NaturallyAspirated on August 20, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
In many of our minds and in my opinion, the Civil war was not about slavery but instead about individual states rights to choose either local govt or a federal bearocracy, obviously the Feds won and it has so far done an exemplary job with fairness for all mankind, go ahead, erase history and we can all live it again.

 :post:

Only like 1.4% of Americans actually owned slaves then.

North vs South was a nail in states rights coffin, Obamacare was several more ringshank nails.
Laughable absurdities.