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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: MattyNH on December 14, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Title: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on December 14, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
 Well my Aqua-Therm has sprung a leak somewhere around the door ring on the inside of the boiler I'm assuming..(I could be wrong) :(..I called the guy who sold me the boiler 10 yrs ago.. I explained to him about everything on the situation..He said he'll call me in a couple of days and will stop by..I really hope this is a quick weld fixing and thats it.. If can't be fixed, might be looking for a new one ugh..(its a money thing lol) Ill keep you guys informed
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: wreckit87 on December 14, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
You think? Can't you let the fire go out and clean it up and see where it's wet? Under the 12psi  a therm runs at, a leak should be pretty easy to spot
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: Roger2561 on December 15, 2017, 03:00:36 AM
Good luck, MattyNH, I hope it's an easy fix.  Roger
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: coolidge on December 15, 2017, 03:59:56 AM
Every bodies favorite welder, JB Weld,   Might get you buy if you can find it.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on December 15, 2017, 04:09:37 AM
good luck, keep us posted. like coolige said, JB weld is a good quick temporary fix. If you can get by for a few days without it, I would let it burn out, clean it out, take a wire brush to the area with the leak and get the area prepped.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: E Yoder on December 15, 2017, 10:10:06 AM
Yes, please post back. Is your aqua therm running under pressure? I know some guys do and some don't. Either way letting it burn down and using a wire brush a bit would tell a lot.
Hope it's some condensation!
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on December 15, 2017, 08:20:50 PM
Yes, please post back. Is your aqua therm running under pressure? I know some guys do and some don't. Either way letting it burn down and using a wire brush a bit would tell a lot.
Hope it's some condensation!
Yes it is
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: Bill ME on December 31, 2017, 05:53:56 PM
Dec 25, my boiler had been shutdown for a day due to travel (to Campton NH!) I came back to a pinhole leak on the inside of the firebox, at the door ring, on the weld positioned about 7 o’clock.  I had a small fountain. My S-275 is about 17 years old. Drained it wire brushed it and I have used the JB weld on it. I am waiting to replace the pressure relief valve before I send water back out there. Have the valve but need the help of a plumber to remove the old one. Also waiting until it warms up a little, we are in frigid conditions where the daily highs have been single numbers. I’m afraid the water will freeze when it hits the exposed pipes and boiler.

I am very interested in what success you’ve had in fixing your leak.

Title: Re: Leak
Post by: smithbr on January 03, 2018, 08:06:16 AM
Bill
Regarding freezeup when refilling, my dealer taught me a trick.  I can backfill my system from the drain tap on my hot water heater; since it's heated either with a sidearm from the OWF, or by electricity, I have the option of turning on the electricity, heating a tank of hot water, then filling my OWF with it.

Just a thought, if you have an alternate way to heat your water.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on January 04, 2018, 02:19:49 PM
Dec 25, my boiler had been shutdown for a day due to travel (to Campton NH!) I came back to a pinhole leak on the inside of the firebox, at the door ring, on the weld positioned about 7 o’clock.  I had a small fountain. My S-275 is about 17 years old. Drained it wire brushed it and I have used the JB weld on it. I am waiting to replace the pressure relief valve before I send water back out there. Have the valve but need the help of a plumber to remove the old one. Also waiting until it warms up a little, we are in frigid conditions where the daily highs have been single numbers. I’m afraid the water will freeze when it hits the exposed pipes and boiler.

I am very interested in what success you’ve had in fixing your leak.
Interesting.. I haven't fixed the leak yet due to the extreme cold, now the blizzard and more extreme cold coming this wknd..My leak is at the door ring....Somewhere up top..I did call the rep that sold me the boiler and the manufacture ..Aqua-Therm told me that a #6011 rod (stick welding) will fix anything on that boiler..The sales rep did call me back (surprisingly) Says he thinks he found a welder..So hopefully once its seasonal temps lol..He'll set it up to get fixed..I'll keep you posted..Where do you buy all of your parts?? I hope not all from Aqua-Therm..Ive been able to buy all my  exact parts on Amazon, eBay, and a outdoor boiler parts page.. Huge Savings!! Only thing I still buy from Aqua-Therm are the gaskets
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: mlappin on January 04, 2018, 02:23:43 PM
6011? Really?

Wouldn’t be my first choice, however I have access to a pretty heavy wire welder with generator.

If I had to stick it think I’d try 7018.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: BIG AL on January 04, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
well 7018 for sure if you can get the area nice and clean otherwise piggy-11 will get it done. you could mig weld it as well but I stick weld anything I can. Just works for me.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on January 04, 2018, 04:03:29 PM
6011? Really?

Wouldn’t be my first choice, however I have access to a pretty heavy wire welder with generator.

If I had to stick it think I’d try 7018.
yup that’s what the manufacturer told me.. Least they told me lol..
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: Bigbaddave on January 04, 2018, 06:01:28 PM
 The only reason I could think they would say 6011 would be because it may be a little more forgiving if the area wasn't prepped good   myself I have to agree with everyone else I would take the time clean it good and use 7018
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: mlappin on January 04, 2018, 06:22:15 PM
If you can’t get it clean enough for 7018 then I don’t see it being a very successful venture using 6011, the porosity will be horrible.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on January 04, 2018, 07:42:45 PM
i will definitely keep the 7018 in mind..Thanks for the advice....Once I find it it will be cleaned before welding..Just want it fixed right the first time..Im not a welder sounds like you guys know what your talking about..
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: schoppy on January 04, 2018, 11:04:19 PM
Need to have the area really clean and dry for 7018. Don't forget that 7018 is a low hydrogen rod and should be kept hot and dry also. Nothing wrong with 6011 if you're a good welder.

I replaced the entire bottom of a friends old CB and used 6011 because the original metal couldn't be cleaned up good enough for a good weld with 7018. That was 3 years ago I believe and still going strong.   
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: mlappin on January 05, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
I’ve yet to find anything that with a knotted wire brush on a angle grinder and a needle scaler I couldn’t clean up enough to wire weld, 7018 isn’t quite as picky as wire.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: mlappin on January 05, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
Have i mentioned I detest stick welding?

Years and years of stitching stuff together on the farm because it wasn’t actually thick enough to lay a real bead on.

Or worse yet getting to braze stuff back together from the lack of a wire welder.

A good trick and a lost art, using a coat hanger and 100 mule team borax for some redneck oxy welding.

Course only got worse once we got a wire welder on the farm, no big deal to build a shaft up and turn it back down since I bought a lathe. However even if I had an indexing head for my bridgeport I refuse to waste my time building up a worn gear then recutting it in the bridgeport.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on March 30, 2018, 07:38:33 PM
Update: Getting the boiler welded tomorrow (sat), finally..Thankfully a good buddy of mine who is a certified welder is doing the job..Mr sales man who sold me the boiler is a failure in my book..We've talked a few times about the issue..Said he was gonna look for someone to repair the boiler..Got the call, sales guy said he found someone, after the call...Never heard from again ugh..Ill keep you guys posted about weld
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: E Yoder on March 31, 2018, 06:13:08 AM
Hope it works out for you. Thanks for updating.
Title: Re: Leak
Post by: MattyNH on March 31, 2018, 10:09:30 PM
Update: Wood boiler leak is fixed!..Long story story short..This am (sat) I pulled the fire out of the boiler and cleaned it..I tore it all apart grates and everything..I had at least 2+ wheel barrows full of ashes that I shovled out of the boiler..Basically my wood boiler was plugged..Cleaned up the areas where id had the leaks on the door ring. Turns out I had 3 pin hole leaks...My buddy ended up welding the entire inside door ring due to what factory did and leaks..In the pic he's inside the wood boiler....Outstanding job he did..Boiler is fired back up and just keeping a eye on things to see if any weeping etc..